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Exchange App Reviews - Developers Joining Together

11-28-2014, 08:25 AM
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Exchange App Reviews - Developers Joining Together

I recommended in a previous post and was shot down by a few of you saying it was the very thing wrong with our business. And I disagreed and still do. Now there is an app with the very idea.

There is nothing wrong with developers downloading, playing and giving an honest review on other developers games. If you would organize instead of keeping to yourselves you would be much stronger. I am new in this business but it has the same problems when I got into the Apple accessory business. No one wants to help anyone else. It is the Coca Cola CEO method, When you see you competitor drowning help him by sticking a fire hose in his mouth.
11-28-2014, 04:52 PM
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You don't need to make another thread about. If you google a bit there are sites which offer app exchange reviews. It is also against the terms and conditions of your App developer account so it could result in it be closed down.

Please follow me on twitter @JamesDestined I post lots of development from both my game creation and professional development.
Time to measure - Brain challenge https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/time...820864672?mt=8
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https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-...6300?ls=1&mt=8

11-28-2014, 10:15 PM
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An honest review?
Any review exchange will end up being the opposite.
Only two things can come of it, Dev's giving each other's games positive reviews in exchange for positive reviews. Regardless of their actual thoughts on the game and, more than likely, often without even trying it.
Or, one dev giving his/her honest opinion. Often hurting others feelings. Leading to ill-will against their own games and negative reviews. Possibly, often without even trying it.
11-29-2014, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Nobunaga View Post
An honest review?
Any review exchange will end up being the opposite.
Only two things can come of it, Dev's giving each other's games positive reviews in exchange for positive reviews. Regardless of their actual thoughts on the game and, more than likely, often without even trying it.
Or, one dev giving his/her honest opinion. Often hurting others feelings. Leading to ill-will against their own games and negative reviews. Possibly, often without even trying it.

And the solution is?
11-29-2014, 09:31 AM
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And the solution is?
Realistically, the only solution, that I can see, if you're serious about this is an application that tracks number of reviews left on your app and offers a pool of games for you to review to match the number of reviews that have been "traded" to you, while keeping all data anonymous.

Alternatively, make a game that will garner community support at places like touch arcade, neogaf, pocket tactics forums, Twitter users that focus on iOS releases, possibly gift said app to some prominent people inside these communities and if it clicks with them they will put in the effort of helping you get your game out there. That's what these forums are about. People helping people promote and find games that they enjoy.

Seems a more organic and less easily abused system. At the risk of sounding rude, and this is not aimed at you, many of the people that complain about not getting exposure have made a sub par or extremely derivitave app that may not ever garner a lot of attention. Some may not deserve that attention. Last I checked something like 300 games were released in a 24 hour period on the AppStore. Most of those were "shovel ware". Most had no real time or dedication put into them. Most did not deserve support from a community of fans or developers.

Anyway, I wish you luck in future ventures. If you can get a community of fans behind you, it'll help more than a developer exchange. In my opinion.
11-29-2014, 10:25 AM
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The solution isn't devs swapping 5 star reviews with each other. That makes a complete mockery of the App Store. That's practically shilling. You give me a 5 star review for my below average app and I'll do the same for you etc
11-29-2014, 04:29 PM
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The solution isn't devs swapping 5 star reviews with each other. That makes a complete mockery of the App Store. That's practically shilling. You give me a 5 star review for my below average app and I'll do the same for you etc
I think it is should be removing positive reviews when the app is removed off the device.

Lowering the weighting for reviews in searches.

Please follow me on twitter @JamesDestined I post lots of development from both my game creation and professional development.
Time to measure - Brain challenge https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/time...820864672?mt=8
The light box, can you solve it (free) (on google play too)
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-...6300?ls=1&mt=8
11-29-2014, 10:05 PM
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The solution isn't devs swapping 5 star reviews with each other. That makes a complete mockery of the App Store. That's practically shilling. You give me a 5 star review for my below average app and I'll do the same for you etc

What happened to honesty

All of this online stuff, not know the people we affect with our comments is part of the problem today. We need to use the need as an extension of ourselves not creating demons.

By the way my skype is LajoCymbalski if any of you want to connect and exchange experiences and ideas on how to move our business forward in a positive way.
11-30-2014, 01:58 AM
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What happened to honesty

All of this online stuff, not know the people we affect with our comments is part of the problem today. We need to use the need as an extension of ourselves not creating demons.

By the way my skype is LajoCymbalski if any of you want to connect and exchange experiences and ideas on how to move our business forward in a positive way.
When some app developers realised they could pay rings to get 100 ratings and 10K downloads from people who would never play.

That whole side of the industry can be pretty shady.

Please follow me on twitter @JamesDestined I post lots of development from both my game creation and professional development.
Time to measure - Brain challenge https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/time...820864672?mt=8
The light box, can you solve it (free) (on google play too)
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-...6300?ls=1&mt=8
11-30-2014, 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 1stSPIN View Post
What happened to honesty

All of this online stuff, not know the people we affect with our comments is part of the problem today. We need to use the need as an extension of ourselves not creating demons.

By the way my skype is LajoCymbalski if any of you want to connect and exchange experiences and ideas on how to move our business forward in a positive way.
Honesty ? You're asking devs to review each other's games not actual players who buy the games. This is just a case of you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours. Just fake reviews. That's not being honest