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iOS games beyond Final Fantasy IX?

02-14-2016, 05:08 AM
#1
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 56
iOS games beyond Final Fantasy IX?

As much as I love my iPhone and iPad Pro something I realised when FFIX just released is that if we have only gotten to the point were PlayStation one games cost over £10, we'll never have games such as GTA5 and Witcher3.
I have come to realise the normal laws of physics apply and that the battery and heat of modern cpu and gpu will never allow this.
I'm still waiting for sunless sea and prison architect and realised I made a huge mistake, I should've bought a Windows laptop and not an iPad Pro.
02-14-2016, 07:54 AM
#2
Well, the Witness should be coming to iOS. GTA 3 is a PS2 game. And there are plenty of other modern ports like Lego, Telltale, Skylander, and Disney Infinity games. But as those names suggest, there are certain games that get ported to iOS, and it's usually not the GTA5 and Witcher 3s. I would guess that the indie games you mentioned haven't been ported for economic reasons, not technical ones.

There's a question, too, about what kind of games are playable on a laptop that's comparable in price and size to an iPad Pro -- I'm almost certain that GTA 5 and Witcher 3 wouldn't.

02-14-2016, 08:25 AM
#3
Joined: Jun 2014
Location: Brazil
Posts: 992
We never know what the future might bring to us. Who would've imagined on PS2 era that one would be playing GTA SA on a cellphone? I think mobile (at whatever form it presents) will be able to do better than the Witcher 3, at some point in time.

However, we have many issues now that prevents mobile from full potential. For one, the big player (Apple) doesn't know what to do or simply doesn´t care, to the point that TA even can´t upgrade its app, which is beyond ridiculous. And I am not even going to get started on the constant (and somewhat forced) system updates breaking more and more games.

Also, the market has changed and premium games are not sustainable anymore on most part. Just look at CM's post on the new Ravensword thread. And controls. If, and a big if, we had a lucrative market for premium games, developers would er... develop games on greater scope, fully optimized for touch controls. We wouldn't be having just ports but original big budgeted games developed with touch controls in mind. Imagine what we could have. But one can only hope...

Maybe this changes, maybe not. But at some point I have no doubt that we gonna have the big games on the palm of our hands or even something cooler that, like VR. It is probably gonna take some time, though.

Last edited by Dankrio; 02-14-2016 at 08:34 AM.
02-14-2016, 03:53 PM
#4
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 368
Meh, current devices are more than powerful enough to run great looking games, it is just that major developers have stopped trying due to the freemium domination . When smaller teams can release games that look like dead effect 2 , implosion , dust an Elysian tale ,forgotten memories or the upcoming epic of kings , I can only imagine what would happen if companies like EA for example , that was releasing some fantastic looking iOS games when the iPad 2 was the high end iPad , had continued down this road .

I believe that people shouldn't be supporting crap like FF IX or GTA Liberty stories but that's just me .
02-14-2016, 04:00 PM
#5
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 368
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Originally Posted by squarezero View Post
Well, the Witness should be coming to iOS. GTA 3 is a PS2 game. And there are plenty of other modern ports like Lego, Telltale, Skylander, and Disney Infinity games. But as those names suggest, there are certain games that get ported to iOS, and it's usually not the GTA5 and Witcher 3s. I would guess that the indie games you mentioned haven't been ported for economic reasons, not technical ones.

There's a question, too, about what kind of games are playable on a laptop that's comparable in price and size to an iPad Pro -- I'm almost certain that GTA 5 and Witcher 3 wouldn't.
What ? Are you saying that a 1000€+ laptop can't run Gta 5 and the witcher 3 ? You are dead wrong .
02-14-2016, 06:26 PM
#6
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Originally Posted by fulcizombie View Post
What ? Are you saying that a 1000€+ laptop can't run Gta 5 and the witcher 3 ? You are dead wrong .
In the US, you can get an iPad Pro for $800. Show me an $800 laptop that runs the Witcher 3 well and I'll accept that I'm wrong.
02-14-2016, 07:33 PM
#7
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Posts: 368
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Originally Posted by squarezero View Post
In the US, you can get an iPad Pro for $800. Show me an $800 laptop that runs the Witcher 3 well and I'll accept that I'm wrong.
That's so easy . Here's one , without any deep search, del inspiration i7559-763blk . At 810$ with a 15.6 inches 1080p screen . Just check its specs, runs circles around games like gta5 and the witcher 3 and that's for the bottom of the barrel iPad pro model . If we go just a bit higher , let's say the price of the medium iPad pro , 950$ , you can get a beast of a laptop like Asus rog gl552vw-dh71 with 16 freakin gb of ram . If we go for the price of the top iPad pro model with a ....huge (lol) 128 gb drive you can get a godly laptop .

The problem isn't even games like the witcher 3 on iOS, I would settle with shadowgun 2 , iOS dead space 2 , 2016 versions of gameloft's console clones of the past , mass effect inflitrator 2 e.t.c .

Hardware capabilities of the mobile devices have moved way faster than what the big developers are making for these devices these days .

Last edited by fulcizombie; 02-14-2016 at 07:53 PM.
02-14-2016, 08:19 PM
#8
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Originally Posted by fulcizombie View Post
That's so easy . Here's one , without any deep search, del inspiration i7559-763blk . At 810$ with a 15.6 inches 1080p screen . Just check its specs, runs circles around games like gta5 and the witcher 3 and that's for the bottom of the barrel iPad pro model . If we go just a bit higher , let's say the price of the medium iPad pro , 950$ , you can get a beast of a laptop like Asus rog gl552vw-dh71 with 16 freakin gb of ram . If we go for the price of the top iPad pro model with a ....huge (lol) 128 gb drive you can get a godly laptop .

The problem isn't even games like the witcher 3 on iOS, I would settle with shadowgun 2 , iOS dead space 2 , 2016 versions of gameloft's console clones of the past , mass effect inflitrator 2 e.t.c .

Hardware capabilities of the mobile devices have moved way faster than what the big developers are making for these devices these days .
Just checked the Dell you mentioned. It has a NV GTX 960M GPU, which according to this benchmark site, runs The Witcher 3, at full resolution, without frills, at about 27 FPS avg. That's not "well" in my book.

Didn't bother to check your other suggestion. The laptops I've seen recommended online are ranging around $1200.
02-14-2016, 08:44 PM
#9
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Originally Posted by squarezero View Post
Just checked the Dell you mentioned. It has a NV GTX 960M GPU, which according to this benchmark site, runs The Witcher 3, at full resolution, without frills, at about 27 FPS avg. That's not "well" in my book.

Didn't bother to check your other suggestion. The laptops I've seen recommended online are ranging around $1200.
If the witcher 3 at basically 30 fps at 1080p resolution , ps4 and Xbox one basically, for the price of the lowest price model iPad pro isn't your thing then...o.k I guess . I didn't know that you meant 1080p, 60 fps , ultra settings . Funny thing is that for around 950$ you can almost get that on a laptop ( you know the laptop that you didn't check ) .

Just let it go, laptops costing the price of an iPad pro absolutely demolishes it when it comes to games ( and to basically everything else) .
02-14-2016, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by fulcizombie View Post
If the witcher 3 at basically 30 fps at 1080p resolution , ps4 and Xbox one basically, for the price of the lowest price model iPad pro isn't your thing then...o.k I guess . I didn't know that you meant 1080p, 60 fps , ultra settings . Funny thing is that for around 950$ you can almost get that on a laptop ( you know the laptop that you didn't check ) .

Just let it go, laptops costing the price of an iPad pro absolutely demolishes it when it comes to games ( and to basically everything else) .
I never suggested otherwise. I was really making two points, which I seem to have articulated poorly: 1) an iPad Pro runs iOS games really, really well; 2) an equivalently-priced laptop does not run high-end PC games (like the Witcher 3 and GTA 5) all that well. I can guarantee you that anyone who is buying a laptop for gaming is not getting a $900 one with a 960M GPU.

And I say to you -- just let it go. What you are arguing doesn't contradict either of these points.