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What do you want Apple to do to stop scams on the App Store?

02-16-2017, 12:37 PM
#1
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,612
What do you want Apple to do to stop scams on the App Store?

So in addition to the frontpage article about the Astroneer Scam, I spend about 5 minutes to see if I could find more scams like that. I probably missed 90% of the scams, because approximately 500-750 new games released today. I found these, they all came out today:

https://itunes.apple.com/nl/app/war-simulator/id1201967475?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 (Fake totally accurate battle simulator)

https://itunes.apple.com/nl/app/survival-horror-simulator-forest/id1198199853?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 (Fake The Forest)

https://itunes.apple.com/nl/app/human-fall-flat/id1201303844?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 (Fake Human Fall Flat)

https://itunes.apple.com/nl/app/portal-knights/id1201447083?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 (Fake Portal Knights)

https://itunes.apple.com/nl/app/neon-faction-t-a-b-s/id1201274785?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 (Another T.A.B.S. Scam)

https://itunes.apple.com/nl/app/rust/id1201295060?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 (Fake Rust)

https://itunes.apple.com/nl/app/the-neighbor-stealth-horror/id1198316810?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 (Fake Hello Neighbour)

https://itunes.apple.com/nl/app/the-forest-first-person-survival-horror/id1199088024?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 (Another fake the Forest)

https://itunes.apple.com/nl/app/ark-survival-evolved/id1197873749?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 (Fake A.R.K.)

https://itunes.apple.com/nl/app/h1z1-king-of-the-kill/id1201701500?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 (Fake H1Z1)

https://itunes.apple.com/nl/app/a-r-k-evolved-survival-dinosaurs/id1198206770?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 (Another fake A.R.K.)

https://itunes.apple.com/nl/app/ark-dinosaur-survival-evolved/id1199112215?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 (yes another fake A.R.K.)

https://itunes.apple.com/nl/app/undertale-underground-world/id1201946477?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 (Undertale scam)

https://itunes.apple.com/nl/app/hello-house-a-neighbor/id1203617970?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 (Hello Neighbour Scam)

https://itunes.apple.com/nl/app/harrys-mod-hello-neighbor-sim-game/id1203265712?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 ((Hello Neighbour / Garry's Mod Scam)

https://itunes.apple.com/nl/app/the-forest/id1197873741?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 (The Forest Scam)

And besides these games there's a never ending pile of games called 'The Room 4' or 'Hill Climb Racing 3' releasing every day or games like 'Asphalt Real Racing 4'. And I'm not going to list the 50-100 Slotmachine Apps released today and the 50-100 games that ripped other games assets.

I'm trying to point out that the App Store kind of became a never ending list of bad games and copyright infringements and I'm sick and tired of that. Approximately 15000-20000 new games come out each month and probably let's say 200 tops are worth playing.

I'd like to know what you think Apple has to do to make the App Store a better place. The first thing they should do imo, is adding a 'Report' button. Google Play already has it.

Last edited by touchy85; 02-16-2017 at 12:42 PM.
02-16-2017, 01:12 PM
#2
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 513
I think Apple could start by following through on their own published guidelines for submissions - quoted as follows :-

"If you attempt to cheat the system (for example, by trying to trick the review process, steal user data, copy another developer's work, or manipulate ratings) your apps will be removed from the store and you will be expelled from the Developer Program."

Clearly this in not happening.

02-16-2017, 01:54 PM
#3
Hire competent reviewers, and default-sort from high to low review score. The junk will simply never show up for most users, this behavior will not be profitable anymore, and soon it will cease to exist.
02-16-2017, 02:18 PM
#4
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 205
This is just a tiny drop I the bucket. Since there are usually massive amounts of stuff being submitted daily, hiring a bunch of people to go through them all thoroughly, would be pretty damn expensive. Not to mention a very sizeable amount of them come from countries where copyrighting stuff is non existent.
02-16-2017, 02:36 PM
#5
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,612
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mariko View Post
This is just a tiny drop I the bucket. Since there are usually massive amounts of stuff being submitted daily, hiring a bunch of people to go through them all thoroughly, would be pretty damn expensive. Not to mention a very sizeable amount of them come from countries where copyrighting stuff is non existent.
I kind of agree with you. But they could at least hire someone to spend 30 minutes a day to manually look for scams like I did.
02-16-2017, 02:43 PM
#6
Joined: Sep 2009
Location: Kansas
Posts: 5,325
Apple doesn't care as long as they are making money.
02-16-2017, 03:05 PM
#7
Joined: Nov 2009
Location: Germany
Posts: 6,486
Nah, nonsense.

Apple is under no obligation to check the apps for copyright infringements. How should they even know? The review process would take weeks or even months if Apple had to verify the legitimacy of every app. As a publisher, Apple only checks if the apps are ok within the Apple guidelines. Nothing more, nothing less. It's the responsibility of the developers to protect their brands and products.
If a dev gives Apple a notice about copyright infringement, Apple will take action - but they do not by themselves. It's simply impossible for them to know every app, every brand, every soundtrack or asset and its rightful owner as well as it is impossible for them to know of each licence that's around. Moreover, it is simply not their job because the app is not their property. Except if it is. I'd love to see one of you try to put a clone of Garage Band on the Appstore - good luck with that. Or have you ever seen a blatent copy of an app that's actually Apple's property? Feel free to prove me wrong.

Quote:
APPSTORE REVIEW GUIDELINES FOR APPLE DEVELOPERS

[...]

5.2 Intellectual Property
Make sure your app only includes content that you created or that you have a license to use. Your app may be removed if you’ve stepped over the line and used content without permission. Of course, this also means someone else’s app may be removed if they’ve “borrowed” from your work. If you believe your intellectual property has been infringed by another developer on the App Store, submit a claim via our web form.
So, if you guys see an app that's obviously scam, give Apple a notice. If you notice a copyright infringement, contact the developer of the original app so that he can send Apple a complaint.

Blaming Apple without the knowledge how the system works is pretty useless, people.

Hi, you seemed to be lost on the Internets.
This is TouchArcade, where 2$ for a game is too much, 5$ is an outrage, and 10$ or more is putting sugar in their car tanks whilst killing puppies.

Last edited by Vovin; 02-16-2017 at 03:48 PM.
02-16-2017, 03:41 PM
#8
you never going to stop rogue or scam games. You should give users more credit then you are doing, we are not daft as a piece of wood and can spot a fake game and if we do end up buying a fake, there is APPLE refund policy, enough people ask for a refund and they will end up looking at why that title been having so many refunds.

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02-16-2017, 04:04 PM
#9
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,612
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vovin View Post
So, if you guys see an app that's obviously scam, give Apple a notice. If you notice a copyright infringement, contact the developer of the original app so that he can send Apple a complaint.

Blaming Apple without the knowledge how the system works is pretty useless, people.
I actually did that once. Most of us probably played Dead Venture by DogByte Games. Someone made a scam app called Dead Venture 2: free, they even called their company Dogbyte GameKft. I sent an e-mail to the dev and they contacted apple. 7 Months later the scam app is still on the App Store. When you search for Dead Venture, the scam has actually the no 1 search result. So basically Apple is running a store with stolen products and they're ignoring the complaints.

Quote:
Originally Posted by hellscaretaker View Post
you never going to stop rogue or scam games. You should give users more credit then you are doing, we are not daft as a piece of wood and can spot a fake game and if we do end up buying a fake, there is APPLE refund policy, enough people ask for a refund and they will end up looking at why that title been having so many refunds.
People on TA have no problems spotting the scams. But when I was browsing the store, 1 of the Arc and 3 of the Hello Neighbour games had already made it to the top 100 Top Paid games list, within hours.
02-16-2017, 04:41 PM
#10
Quote:
Originally Posted by touchy85 View Post
I kind of agree with you. But they could at least hire someone to spend 30 minutes a day to manually look for scams like I did.
Maybe they did and found many more than that.