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Old 12-16-2009, 05:25 PM
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so the publishers have absolutely no inflluence over the developer is what your saying ........maybe over there in utopia thats true
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Old 12-16-2009, 05:27 PM
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please get your facts straight!
chillingo is a PUBLISHING company, they do not develop the games. Their job is to drum-up intrest in the game and spread the word. They had nothing to do with seed's price drop.
To say, you won't be picking up future titles is just kinda stupid.
Thank you for your input. *

If you really believe that a major publisher doesn't have any control over the pricing and marketing of the games that they distribute, then you are incorrect.

If you really believe that you (as someone unconnected to the developer or the publisher) can make a definitive statement like "They had nothing to do with the price drop", without looking foolish then you are also incorrect about that, too.

If you comprehended my post so poorly that you can't tell the difference between "no plans to ever purchase another one in the first few weeks" and "won't be picking up future titles" then you need to work on your reading skills.

In any case, I repeat, "Thank you for your input."

Regards, Michael





* I have a friend who used to work at Microsoft, and she told me that when clueless idiots who obviously didn't know what they were talking about would come up to her at trade shows, she would just say "Thank you for your input." and move on.

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Old 12-16-2009, 05:47 PM
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and it was not just a simple price change or promotion...
they changed their business strategy and the customers need to pay for their mistake?
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Old 12-16-2009, 06:28 PM
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Thank you for your input. *

If you really believe that a major publisher doesn't have any control over the pricing and marketing of the games that they distribute, then you are incorrect.

If you really believe that you (as someone unconnected to the developer or the publisher) can make a definitive statement like "They had nothing to do with the price drop", without looking foolish then you are also incorrect about that, too.

If you comprehended my post so poorly that you can't tell the difference between "no plans to ever purchase another one in the first few weeks" and "won't be picking up future titles" then you need to work on your reading skills.

In any case, I repeat, "Thank you for your input."

Regards, Michael





* I have a friend who used to work at Microsoft, and she told me that when clueless idiots who obviously didn't know what they were talking about would come up to her at trade shows, she would just say "Thank you for your input." and move on.
oops i might have posted this twice sorry. but anyway thanks for your input. im sorry but unless you know the specifics of the contract that chillingo has with the developer then i would say you are in no position tell tell him he is incorrect. maybe chillingo didnt have any say in what the price should be or maybe there was something in the developer /chillingo agreement that would allow them make the game free for a certain period of time if the developer chose to do so then again maybe in that agreement chillingo has full control over the price. truth is no one except the developer and chillingo know that and it would unethical for them to speak about it. as far as the bundle is concerned i think its an awesome deal. the original game with all the expansions will keep you playing for a long time so its worth the money.
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Old 12-16-2009, 08:36 PM
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the whole pricing shenanigans that go on with apps is just sad. it truly is the majority of the reason why i put everything i'm interested in into my wish list and just wait to be notified about it reaching my price point. of the 270 apps on my touch i think i've only made 3 or so exceptions to that 'wait and see' rule.

i liked what i saw when seed was initially released, but for some reason didn't add it to my wishlist and dismissed it immediately after looking at the price. then saw it for free and grabbed it a week or two later.

as far as this game goes though, they haven't budget more than a single dollar on the whole series, so i wouldn't expect them to budge on this 9.99 price for all of them.....but.... i'll throw it on the wait list and see what happens over the next 2 weeks or so...

which i hate, since i did say a while back they should release a gold of all the expansions for $9/$10...

....well, i have a $25 itunes card coming before the new year's sometime for some credit card reward, so maybe i'll just hold off until that...
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Old 12-16-2009, 09:06 PM
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im sorry but unless you know the specifics of the contract that chillingo has with the developer then i would say you are in no position tell tell him he is incorrect. maybe chillingo didnt have any say in what the price should be or maybe there was something in the developer /chillingo agreement that would allow them make the game free for a certain period of time if the developer chose to do so then again maybe in that agreement chillingo has full control over the price. truth is no one except the developer and chillingo know that and it would unethical for them to speak about it.
You skipped:

Maybe the developer has pictures of the Chillingo CEO in a compromising position and was able to blackmail him into changing the price.

Maybe Steve Jobs was the developer and the Chillingo were afraid to not listen to him.

Maybe the developer snuck into the Chillingo offices himself and changed the price when no one was looking.

Maybe, maybe, maybe. Since you seem to be a bit hmmmm, let me rephrase my original answer:

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please get your facts straight!
chillingo is a PUBLISHING company, they do not develop the games. Their job is to drum-up intrest in the game and spread the word. They had nothing to do with seed's price drop.
Generally speaking, a large publisher has far more control over the pricing of ones of its titles then an unknown developer. While it is possible that this was a unilateral decision of the developer, it is far more likely that the decision was made by Chillingo. Your blanket assumption that Chillingo "had nothing to do with seed's price drop." is both unwarranted and unlikely.

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as far as the bundle is concerned i think its an awesome deal. the original game with all the expansions will keep you playing for a long time so its worth the money.
If its worth the money to you, then I suggest you go buy it. For myself, I plan to see what they do with the price over the next few weeks and possibly get it then if I am still interested.

Michael
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Old 12-16-2009, 09:13 PM
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The quest and its expansions is by far the game on iphone i have put the most hours in. I recommend this for everyone that want's a good long, well done adventure. I define it as a lightweight rpg with a continuing classic story. And if you are willing to, you can go on doing so many sidequests that you almost forget the main one. Thumbs up for this one. =)
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Old 12-16-2009, 11:34 PM
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The quest and its expansions is by far the game on iphone i have put the most hours in. I recommend this for everyone that want's a good long, well done adventure. I define it as a lightweight rpg with a continuing classic story. And if you are willing to, you can go on doing so many sidequests that you almost forget the main one. Thumbs up for this one. =)
I totally agree, I love this game above all the other 300 apps I own, but it's def. only for hardcore RPG gamers such as myself
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Old 12-17-2009, 02:22 PM
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You skipped:

Maybe the developer has pictures of the Chillingo CEO in a compromising position and was able to blackmail him into changing the price.

Maybe Steve Jobs was the developer and the Chillingo were afraid to not listen to him.

Maybe the developer snuck into the Chillingo offices himself and changed the price when no one was looking.

Maybe, maybe, maybe. Since you seem to be a bit hmmmm, let me rephrase my original answer:



Generally speaking, a large publisher has far more control over the pricing of ones of its titles then an unknown developer. While it is possible that this was a unilateral decision of the developer, it is far more likely that the decision was made by Chillingo. Your blanket assumption that Chillingo "had nothing to do with seed's price drop." is both unwarranted and unlikely.



If its worth the money to you, then I suggest you go buy it. For myself, I plan to see what they do with the price over the next few weeks and possibly get it then if I am still interested.

Michael
i made no assumptions about anything. i said that no one knows so no one should assume anything one way or the other. but i dont think that the price would be changed unless the developer agreed to it. or else they wouldnt have thier game published by chillingo. and i doubt that would full pricing control to chillingo in thier agreement. if i was a developer who wants to make money selling my work i wouldnt; would you? i suppose you would since it seems so outlandish to you that the developer should have any influence on deciding prices. as i said before i dont know the speciifics of the developer/ publisher agreement between chillingo and the guys that made seed but im pretty sure that the pricing changes are most likely in accord with that agreement or else the developers would be complaining about chillingo breaching that agreement.

i did buy the quest and all the expansions thats why i know this is a good deal for anyone who doesnt have it yet. your saving about five dollars with this bundle and im pretty sure that its not gonna get much chepaer than that. but there is a lite version that people can try they arent sure they like this kind of game.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:51 PM
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Developer here.

We are in complete control of the pricing of our games. The price has nothing to do with Chillingo and any change is completely decided by us.

The full series is $14 if you buy separately, so I think this is a rather nice discount.

Please don't be influenced by the shenanigans of other developers. If you are not sure, you can download the Lite version for free and try for yourself.
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