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something for the younger ones

12-27-2009, 03:31 PM
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something for the younger ones

http://ask.slashdot.org/story/09/12/...Old-To-Program

should be good to check out the answers posted to this story; might give some of the younger ones here some ideas as to how to learn how to program so they can write their own games.

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12-27-2009, 06:37 PM
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The first answer to the question says "Teach him Python"... A good idea, but I would recommend starting with BASIC. I started with Python, a friend of mine started with Basic. Python somehow makes you lazy when it comes to type declarations which was very annoying for me when I wanted to write something in C# (I guess C# isn't really like C... I coded something in this language in a Codewars-like project... I havent taken part in that project for more than a year, but I feel it has somehow shown me that Python is "too easy"... It is still useful (I have to use it in school ;D), but switching from Python to C/Obj-C isn't that easy I guess...

12-27-2009, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Vingdoloras View Post
The first answer to the question says "Teach him Python"... A good idea, but I would recommend starting with BASIC. I started with Python, a friend of mine started with Basic. Python somehow makes you lazy when it comes to type declarations which was very annoying for me when I wanted to write something in C# (I guess C# isn't really like C... I coded something in this language in a Codewars-like project... I havent taken part in that project for more than a year, but I feel it has somehow shown me that Python is "too easy"... It is still useful (I have to use it in school ;D), but switching from Python to C/Obj-C isn't that easy I guess...
Tried out Python 'bout a year ago. If you stick with it, it's really not that hard to learn. I stayed with it for about 3 months. Tried learning Obj-C. That was the day I gave up programming.
12-27-2009, 07:28 PM
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Lol, yes I didn't say Python is hard.

You gave up programing just because it's hard to learn a new language? If some of these kids (again, kids = young people, no offense!) give up that fast, they should wait a few years before trying to get a developer who codes for them...
12-27-2009, 08:30 PM
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I Rather Go Straight To C

I Rather Go Straight To C......
Mostly Becauze Itz Pretty Eazy To Get It Down

C For Dummiez Iz The Book I Started Out With And I Gotta Say Itz Much Eazier Than I Thought It Would Be!!

But Dont Get Me Wrong Here
I Never Tried Python Zo I Dont Know How "Eazy" It Really Is......

Then Went On To C++
Had A Little Trouble At Firzt But Then Got Uzed To It

But What Im Trying To Zay Iz That To Try With C Firzt !!!

But 4 A 12-year-old I Guezz You Should Try With Python.......

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12-27-2009, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Vingdoloras View Post
Lol, yes I didn't say Python is hard.

You gave up programing just because it's hard to learn a new language? If some of these kids (again, kids = young people, no offense!) give up that fast, they should wait a few years before trying to get a developer who codes for them...
They should at least try. It's the only way they'll get a game out there. I might actually take a coding class over the summer. College course or something. You need some serious drive to go through a 600 page book.
12-27-2009, 09:22 PM
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They should at least try. It's the only way they'll get a game out there. I might actually take a coding class over the summer. College course or something. You need some serious drive to go through a 600 page book.
You just need to be really interested in these things (look at KJY, hes 14, do you think he took a college course? ;-) ) but such a course might be helpful if you need some sort of extra thing that makes you continue even if you don't feel like it at some moments.
12-27-2009, 09:25 PM
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Edit: sorry I accidently posted this twice because my phone lagged...

Edit again: is there a way to delete this post?

Last edited by Vingdoloras; 12-27-2009 at 09:28 PM.
12-27-2009, 09:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dizturbing Appz View Post
I Rather Go Straight To C......
Mostly Becauze Itz Pretty Eazy To Get It Down

C For Dummiez Iz The Book I Started Out With And I Gotta Say Itz Much Eazier Than I Thought It Would Be!!

But Dont Get Me Wrong Here
I Never Tried Python Zo I Dont Know How "Eazy" It Really Is......

Then Went On To C++
Had A Little Trouble At Firzt But Then Got Uzed To It

But What Im Trying To Zay Iz That To Try With C Firzt !!!

But 4 A 12-year-old I Guezz You Should Try With Python.......
1. Pleaze ztop replazing "s" with "z", itz annoying!
2. For grown ups it may be easier... Children need to learn this new way of thinking first... Python and Basic are easier ways to learn this way of thinking...
12-28-2009, 12:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vingdoloras View Post
You just need to be really interested in these things
this is the point - spot on.

i was 13 when i started programming; it was using BASIC on a Commodore 64 - actually before; you could manually type in binary dumps to create binaries from magazines - they were cool hehe. when i got into it for real; it was at highschool where my teacher actually gave me a computer (MicroBee 128K) where i ended up programming z80 assembler and was introduced to Pascal.

my first programs were very basic but, you gotta start somewhere.

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