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Any great 3D Dungeon Crawlers out there?

05-13-2010, 07:32 PM
#1
Joined: May 2010
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Any great 3D Dungeon Crawlers out there?

Hi Guys,

Anyone have any recommendations for any 3D Dungeon crawlers for the iphone / ipad?

I love the rouge'like genre, but I am getting a bit burnt out of it at the moment to be honest, and not really look for loot table games like Diablo either.

Instead I am really looking for games that are heavily influenced by Wizardry, Eye of the Beholder, Shining in the Darkness, Etrian Odyssey, etc.

Anything out there that fits that bill?
05-13-2010, 07:52 PM
#2
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 5,146
If you're a Wizardry fan, pick up Undercroft immediately, without hesitation.

Also check out The Quest, but try the lite first.



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Hi Guys,

Anyone have any recommendations for any 3D Dungeon crawlers for the iphone / ipad?

I love the rouge'like genre, but I am getting a bit burnt out of it at the moment to be honest, and not really look for loot table games like Diablo either.

Instead I am really looking for games that are heavily influenced by Wizardry, Eye of the Beholder, Shining in the Darkness, Etrian Odyssey, etc.

Anything out there that fits that bill?

05-13-2010, 07:53 PM
#3
Joined: Feb 2009
Location: Singapore
Posts: 1,755
Have you tried "The Quest"? It's not exactly a pure dungeon crawler like Etrian Odyssey, but it's a roleplaying game similiar to the early Elder Scrolls games.
05-13-2010, 08:19 PM
#4
Um, this isn't an iPhone game, but I HIGHLY suggest The Dark Spire. It's a DS game that Wizardry fans absolutely MUST play.

Anyways, on the topic of iPhone games, Undercroft is a good bet and so is The Quest. Neither are quite like Wizardry, but they're both good fun and worth the cash. You can also check out Sorcerer #1 and #2, which are essentially straight ports of one of the early Wizardries, albeit with different sprites.
05-14-2010, 12:11 PM
#5
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 3
Thanks for the suggestions guys, will be picking up undercroft (already have Quest, and Sorcerer).

Sounds like there really is not a whole lot out there, which I am kind of surprised considering the sheer amount of rouge'likes and diablo clones.

Thanks for the suggestion on Dark Spire posterman, that was one of my most highly anticipated games for quite awhile, and I was super excited when I found out it was being localized for the states. But for some reason, when I actually bought it, I never really got into it. Maybe I should give it another shot since it will probably awhile until Etrian Odyssey 3 comes over here.
05-14-2010, 01:12 PM
#6
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 169
I suggest Doom 2 RPG and Wolfenstein RPG. Two great ID games that are inspired by classic 3D dungeon crawlers.
05-14-2010, 01:24 PM
#7
I don't have anything new to add since previous posters have already been so informative, but I couldn't help but say something on this thread since I'm such a huge fan of the genre.

Undercroft is definitely going to be a great choice for you. The gameplay and balance is a bit out of whack (mostly because you can consume as many potions and similar consumables as you want during a single round). But it has a good party dynamic, some cool character development choices, and most importantly is party-based. The graphics and polish are also top notch. The storyline left something to be desired, but that's really par for the course for this sub-genre.

The Quest is a close contender. It's certainly the largest of this style of game on the iPhone (by a huge margin). And it's character development system is extremely robust, and clearly modeled after the Elder Scrolls games (Daggerfall, Morrowind, etc). Unfortunately, it isn't party-based so you only have a single character to develop. On the upside, the developers (Redshift) are working on a new iPhone RPG series that they've described as being somewhat like an updated The Quest, but with a party. The Quest has a ton of expansions, each of which adds another 30+ hours of content. There are six expansions released so far.

Oddly enough, in my opinion, The Quest's main setback is the approach they've taken with their expansions. Rather than building a more diverse set of independent games (or duos, trilogies, etc), all of them are designed around the idea of importing the same character (or rather, activating the expansions in the base game) and having that character keep on going, and going, and going. While they are playable independently, they are setup in a linear progression. Each expansion is designed for progressively higher-level of play, and the story lines make at least some small references to the same character progressing through the whole thing.

I really would have preferred to have seen them take an approach more similar to how the Gold Box games, or the Infinity Engine games were handled. Use the engine and assets to tell completely different stories (with different characters and settings), that each stand out from each other. Game systems just start to get ridiculous at progressively higher and higher levels of play. There are people reporting hitting monsters in the latest expansion for 14,000 hp of damage per swing. Epicness can only be taken so far before it becomes blase.

The Sorcerer games are a decent port, but it's pretty hard to go back to that style of graphics (even though the first Wizardry, Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord, was the first game that got me into gaming and I'm a huge fan of the series).

As a side note, I loved The Dark Spire, and also am a huge Etrian Odyssey junkie. Have you tried Shin Megami Tensai: Strange Journey? It has a lot going for it, though I miss the traditional more permanent party approach.
05-14-2010, 01:42 PM
#8
Joined: Jun 2009
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Be sure to check out Dragon Bane II and Princess Demelza.

Crusty old graphics, fantastic Bard's Tale style gameplay with parties, etc. Both offer more game play/length than Undercroft, and rival The Quest in terms of epicness, IMHO. (Especially for the price!)

PS> Undercroft rocks (I got to beta test it - plays like Dungeon Master II) and The Quest is great, but feels very Rambo-ish. However it's a lot of game for the money, grab The Quest Gold and play through that before you decide on investing on the expansions. I haven't played Wolf or Doom RPG yet, was kicking myself for not buying Wolf RPG when it was a buck two weeks ago... If you have a DS, iD made Orcs & Elves which is fantastic (if short - play it on a harder difficulty than normal!)

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05-14-2010, 01:53 PM
#9
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Undercroft is definitely going to be a great choice for you.
Ditto. Great, underrated game, IMHO.

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The gameplay and balance is a bit out of whack (mostly because you can consume as many potions and similar consumables as you want during a single round).
This is not the case anymore if you play on the harder difficulty, IIRC. And really, it is the only way to enjoy it fully.

Favorites: Puzzle Quest, The Quest, Sway, Glyder, Reign of Swords, Flight of the Amazon Queen
05-14-2010, 02:52 PM
#10
Joined: May 2010
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As a side note, I loved The Dark Spire, and also am a huge Etrian Odyssey junkie. Have you tried Shin Megami Tensai: Strange Journey? It has a lot going for it, though I miss the traditional more permanent party approach.
Thanks for the detailed comments BadYeti And yes, I most definitely do own Strange Journey, being not only a big MegaTen fan but also a dungeon crawler fanatic, I knew it was right up my alley. I was also really surprised to find out via a recent podcast that the Etrian Odyssey 1 and 2 team did the game. I had no idea that was the case until just recently.