The Xbox 360 Thread

[Electric_Shaman]

Originally Posted by MidianGTX

If I hear that ridiculous fanboy statement once more I'm gonna start ripping teeth out. If you think the online is bad, you just haven't used it and you're grabbing for straws in desperation. If you think the exclusives are bad, you're not a gamer 'cause you're missing out on some fantastic stuff.

I'm not sure he was really saying the exclusives are terrible, just changing it from 'better', which I agree with.
But then that's a matter of personal taste. For me, at the time I got my first Xbox, the library was more extensive than the PS3, and there were simply more games for me to buy, at a cheaper price given the age of some of them.

[MidianGTX]

Originally Posted by Electric_Shaman

I'm not sure he was really saying the exclusives are terrible, just changing it from 'better', which I agree with.
But then that's a matter of personal taste. For me, at the time I got my first Xbox, the library was more extensive than the PS3, and there were simply more games for me to buy, at a cheaper price given the age of some of them.

The 360 library was more extensive when I bought it too, by about 100%

These days I just prefer having the reliability, Blu-ray and massive HDD. I'd die without Demon's Souls too, one of my favourite games ever.

[Donovan1209]

Originally Posted by MidianGTX

If I hear that ridiculous fanboy statement once more I'm gonna start ripping teeth out. If you think the online is bad, you just haven't used it and you're grabbing for straws in desperation. If you think the exclusives are bad, you're not a gamer 'cause you're missing out on some fantastic stuff.

+1

Originally Posted by MidianGTX

The 360 library was more extensive when I bought it too, by about 100%

These days I just prefer having the reliability, Blu-ray and massive HDD. I'd die without Demon's Souls too, one of my favourite games ever.

Nowadays PS3 has better exclusives, but back when it first came out the games SUCKED! But it's gotten REALLY good since then.

Originally Posted by Electric_Shaman

I'm not sure he was really saying the exclusives are terrible, just changing it from 'better', which I agree with.
But then that's a matter of personal taste. For me, at the time I got my first Xbox, the library was more extensive than the PS3, and there were simply more games for me to buy, at a cheaper price given the age of some of them.

He changed better to terrible which is horribly untrue. Most people I know who is 360 only or 360 + Wii don't even know what Uncharted is, sadly. 360 online is better with party chat and all the things that come with it, and if Sony would add something similar to PSN, XBLA would be worse in the end, I mean it doesn't even have an internet browser. But atm it all depends on whether you're willing to pay around $5 a month for one extra feature for online.

So in the end the consoles nearly equal. It all comes down to what you're looking for in your console.

[Rocketman919]

Originally Posted by Donovan1209

Bad online? The only thing we don't have is party chat/cross game chat. Other than that they're about equal. And PS3 has better exclusives, have you been living under a rock or something, and next year will have even better exclusives on the way. I could make a list of PS3 exclusives, but, I'd rather not waste my time. (and let's not turn this into a flame/console war)

Originally Posted by MidianGTX

If I hear that ridiculous fanboy statement once more I'm gonna start ripping teeth out. If you think the online is bad, you just haven't used it and you're grabbing for straws in desperation. If you think the exclusives are bad, you're not a gamer 'cause you're missing out on some fantastic stuff.

I have used it. Many times. I actually own a ps3, two actually, and they make great blu Ray players. That's it. First of all, the fact that no ps3 systems come with mics doesn't allow for decent online play. Also as mentioned above, no cross game chat. Secondly, exclusives are an opinion thing. Sure, ps3 has uncharted, killzone, god of war, etc. But I think half of those are overrated and the other half can't hold my interest. Why play uncharted on my ps3 while I can be playing gears of war 2 while talking with my buddies who are playing halo reach? Thirdly, the ps3 controller is terrible and is awfully shaped, and that is universally agreed upon, so any game that is multiplat I will get for the xbox. Also my friends all have xbox's, and none have ps3s. Finally, XBLA is huge, 8 out of ten games on there are great (braid, castle crashers, n+, super meat boy, toy soldiers, PvZ, etc.) and 90 % of those aren't available on ps3.


So yeah, call me a fanboy, whatever, but I have facts and proof to back up my claims. And exclusives are subjective to the person, if you'd rather play God of war by yourself while I play Reach with my friends, be my guest.


And that other guy should know not to bring up PS3 in the xbox thread, because he knows he will be flamed.

[Hmar9333]

Originally Posted by Rocketman919

I have used it. Many times. I actually own a ps3, two actually, and they make great blu Ray players. That's it. First of all, the fact that no ps3 systems come with mics doesn't allow for decent online play. Also as mentioned above, no cross game chat. Secondly, exclusives are an opinion thing. Sure, ps3 has uncharted, killzone, god of war, etc. But I think half of those are overrated and the other half can't hold my interest. Why play uncharted on my ps3 while I can be playing gears of war 2 while talking with my buddies who are playing halo reach? Thirdly, the ps3 controller is terrible and is awfully shaped, and that is universally agreed upon, so any game that is multiplat I will get for the xbox. Also my friends all have xbox's, and none have ps3s. Finally, XBLA is huge, 8 out of ten games on there are great (braid, castle crashers, n+, super meat boy, toy soldiers, PvZ, etc.) and 90 % of those aren't available on ps3.


So yeah, call me a fanboy, whatever, but I have facts and proof to back up my claims. And exclusives are subjective to the person, if you'd rather play God of war by yourself while I play Reach with my friends, be my guest.


And that other guy should know not to bring up PS3 in the xbox thread, because he knows he will be flamed.

He makes a decent argument.

[MidianGTX]

Originally Posted by Rocketman919

I have used it. Many times. I actually own a ps3, two actually, and they make great blu Ray players. That's it. First of all, the fact that no ps3 systems come with mics doesn't allow for decent online play. Also as mentioned above, no cross game chat. Secondly, exclusives are an opinion thing. Sure, ps3 has uncharted, killzone, god of war, etc. But I think half of those are overrated and the other half can't hold my interest. Why play uncharted on my ps3 while I can be playing gears of war 2 while talking with my buddies who are playing halo reach? Thirdly, the ps3 controller is terrible and is awfully shaped, and that is universally agreed upon, so any game that is multiplat I will get for the xbox. Also my friends all have xbox's, and none have ps3s. Finally, XBLA is huge, 8 out of ten games on there are great (braid, castle crashers, n+, super meat boy, toy soldiers, PvZ, etc.) and 90 % of those aren't available on ps3.

So yeah, call me a fanboy, whatever, but I have facts and proof to back up my claims. And exclusives are subjective to the person, if you'd rather play God of war by yourself while I play Reach with my friends, be my guest.


And that other guy should know not to bring up PS3 in the xbox thread, because he knows he will be flamed.

First things first, what's your PSN ID? Now to business. It doesn't come with a mic. Huge freakin' bonus. This helps to dramatically cut down on the whiny kids on multiplayer games. They're still there obviously, but the fact they need to spend money in order to speak to anyone means that the majority of them either can't afford it, or don't think it's worthwhile. Plus, when you do decide to buy the PS3 headset, it's by far better than the crappy one you get free with a 360.

Lack of cross game talk is a negative, we've given you that, but it's not the end of the world. Why on earth you'd want to play Gears 2 (decent for one or two runs through career) and talk to a buddy on Halo (amazingly overrated) when Gears is co-op anyway is just bizarre. To be brutally honest, I didn't use cross-game chat when I was on my 360 anyway, I was usually on MSN/AIM/Skype/this forum at the same time.

If you "just happen" to dislike every PS3 exclusive you either have bad taste in games, an extremely narrow taste in games (just as negative really) or your unreasonable hatred for PS3 is actually influencing your opinion and you're determined not to find anything good with them just to convince yourself you've made the right decision. I suppose there's also the possibility you're just lying about ever having played them, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

That the PS3 controller is badly shaped is ridiculous. For a start: No, it absolutely isn't universally agreed on. It's universally agreed on by 360 fanboys that a "great" argument against the PS3 is it's controller. Sony have stuck with what works, because that's what the fans wanted. It's been used for no less than 16 years now, and if there was a problem with it, someone at Sony would have noticed. Secondly, the more you use a controller, the more you grow accustomed to it's shape, like a new pair of shoes. If you hold a NES, SNES, Genesis, Saturn or N64 controller now, it'll feel incredibly uncomfortable, yet back in the day we all thought they were perfectly adequate and in using them grew comfortable with their shape until they felt natural. A large number of 360 fans have held a PS3 controller for 60 seconds, thought "this doesn't feel like the controller I'm used to" and then their tiny fanboy brains have turned that thought into a completely different situation altogether.

There are definitely some great games on XBLA, which is why I own a 360 as well. Eight out of ten is pushing it a little, only two of the ones you listed give me any interest, and I'd assume that if you genuinely like 8/10 games on XBLA your gaming taste would be wide enough to enjoy a bigger spectrum of PS3 exclusives as well, yet seemingly is isn't. Strange coincidence.

You have a couple of facts there, and a couple of bent truths, which just goes to prove my point. They're both good consoles, and I'm happy owning both. You'll notice that your argument was based on proving the PS3 was a bad console, whereas mine was based on proving they both have positives and are worth owning. I think one of us is being a lot more biased than the other. Lastly, we should be able to mention PS3 in the 360 thread. That we might get flamed just proves there are total idiots on the internet, we know that, but there are also those of us who own more than one console and sometimes the conversation just naturally leads to the other.

Oh, and you can keep Halo, but don't worry, you'll grow out of it.

[Lombardo]

Originally Posted by MidianGTX

First things first, what's your PSN ID? Now to business. It doesn't come with a mic. Huge freakin' bonus. This helps to dramatically cut down on the whiny kids on multiplayer games. They're still there obviously, but the fact they need to spend money in order to speak to anyone means that the majority of them either can't afford it, or don't think it's worthwhile. Plus, when you do decide to buy the PS3 headset, it's by far better than the crappy one you get free with a 360.

Lack of cross game talk is a negative, we've given you that, but it's not the end of the world. Why on earth you'd want to play Gears 2 (decent for one or two runs through career) and talk to a buddy on Halo (amazingly overrated) when Gears is co-op anyway is just bizarre. To be brutally honest, I didn't use cross-game chat when I was on my 360 anyway, I was usually on MSN/AIM/Skype/this forum at the same time.

If you "just happen" to dislike every PS3 exclusive you either have bad taste in games, an extremely narrow taste in games (just as negative really) or your unreasonable hatred for PS3 is actually influencing your opinion and you're determined not to find anything good with them just to convince yourself you've made the right decision. I suppose there's also the possibility you're just lying about ever having played them, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

That the PS3 controller is badly shaped is ridiculous. For a start: No, it absolutely isn't universally agreed on. It's universally agreed on by 360 fanboys that a "great" argument against the PS3 is it's controller. Sony have stuck with what works, because that's what the fans wanted. It's been used for no less than 16 years now, and if there was a problem with it, someone at Sony would have noticed. Secondly, the more you use a controller, the more you grow accustomed to it's shape, like a new pair of shoes. If you hold a NES, SNES, Genesis, Saturn or N64 controller now, it'll feel incredibly uncomfortable, yet back in the day we all thought they were perfectly adequate and in using them grew comfortable with their shape until they felt natural. A large number of 360 fans have held a PS3 controller for 60 seconds, thought "this doesn't feel like the controller I'm used to" and then their tiny fanboy brains have turned that thought into a completely different situation altogether.

There are definitely some great games on XBLA, which is why I own a 360 as well. Eight out of ten is pushing it a little, only two of the ones you listed give me any interest, and I'd assume that if you genuinely like 8/10 games on XBLA your gaming taste would be wide enough to enjoy a bigger spectrum of PS3 exclusives as well, yet seemingly is isn't. Strange coincidence.

You have a couple of facts there, and a couple of bent truths, which just goes to prove my point. They're both good consoles, and I'm happy owning both. You'll notice that your argument was based on proving the PS3 was a bad console, whereas mine was based on proving they both have positives and are worth owning. I think one of us is being a lot more biased than the other. Lastly, we should be able to mention PS3 in the 360 thread. That we might get flamed just proves there are total idiots on the internet, we know that, but there are also those of us who own more than one console and sometimes the conversation just naturally leads to the other.

Oh, and you can keep Halo, but don't worry, you'll grow out of it.

This. I also prefer the PS3 controller and I have a 360 and PS3. 360 broke like a piece of shit, PS3 has had 0 problems. And for xbox live games being better: 1- who cares that much about downloadable games, 2- PS1 games.

Obviously this is a matter of opinion.

[Electric_Shaman]

Originally Posted by Donovan1209

He changed better to terrible which is horribly untrue. Most people I know who is 360 only or 360 + Wii don't even know what Uncharted is, sadly. 360 online is better with party chat and all the things that come with it, and if Sony would add something similar to PSN, XBLA would be worse in the end, I mean it doesn't even have an internet browser. But atm it all depends on whether you're willing to pay around $5 a month for one extra feature for online.

So in the end the consoles nearly equal. It all comes down to what you're looking for in your console.

I really don't see the point of having an internet browser on a home console. If we were talking portables, it would be a different matter, but the fact that I either have to buy a keyboard peripheral, or use the onscreen keyboard, seems pointless when I could just grab my laptop.

Originally Posted by Lombardo

This. I also prefer the PS3 controller and I have a 360 and PS3. 360 broke like a piece of shit, PS3 has had 0 problems. And for xbox live games being better: 1- who cares that much about downloadable games, 2- PS1 games.

Obviously this is a matter of opinion.

Someone has clearly never played MNC. Or any other decent XBLA game.
But being able to download PS1 games is cool, not that I can think of any I'd really want (except maybe LSD). You can download original Xbox games though.

[Donovan1209]

Originally Posted by Hmar9333

He makes a decent argument.

Meh, Halo and Gears are both overrated in my very honest opinion. And he says he backs up his claims with facts. It's opinion that 360 controller is better. Have you seen PS3's PSN exclusive games? Like Flower, fl0w, Super Stardust HD, etc. Apparently not. PS3 has more and better exclusives. And there are plenty of multiplayer games that are helluva lot of fun. Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 (soon to be 3), Resistance 1 or 2 (soon to be 3), etc. There are more PS3 exclusive mp games, that are just as good as Halo.

In other words, seems as though Fable 3 sucks. Well I suppose Gears 3 could save their exclusives.

[Hmar9333]

Originally Posted by Donovan1209

Meh, Halo and Gears are both overrated in my very honest opinion. And he says he backs up his claims with facts. It's opinion that 360 controller is better. Have you seen PS3's PSN exclusive games? Like Flower, fl0w, Super Stardust HD, etc. Apparently not. PS3 has more and better exclusives. And there are plenty of multiplayer games that are helluva lot of fun. Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 (soon to be 3), Resistance 1 or 2 (soon to be 3), etc. There are more PS3 exclusive mp games, that are just as good as Halo.

In other words, seems as though Fable 3 sucks. Well I suppose Gears 3 could save their exclusives.

I'm sorry but you guys seem to be saying "Oi! If you think PS3 exclusives are bad you are narrow minded! On the other hand 360 exclusives are overrated"
(that was aimed more at Midian than at you)

Which is incredibly hypocrytical.

Onto your other points; the controller:
I had a Playstation 1 for YEARS, I used to play that thing to death, and the controller was functional, yes, it worked fine and I had no problems. However, when I bought my 360, I picked up the controller and thought 'Wow, this is so much more comfortable than the Playstation controller'.
The PS controller design is functional, yes, outdated, yes, less comfortable than an Xbox 360 controller, yes.

Onto exclusives: Halo, Gears, Fable (yes, even Fable) etc. are all fantastic games. I think if you've played them properly you'd find it hard to disagree,
But the PS3 does have many more great full retail exclusives than the Xbox 360.
Where
The Xbox really shines in it's exclusives is the Xbox Live Marketplace. Braid, Mysterious adventures of PB Winterbottom, Hydrophobia, Toy Soldiers, Plants vs Zombies, the list goes on and on.
Not to mention that most cross platform games release DLC for the Xbox a LONG time before the Playstation releases.
PS3 beats Xbox in full retail exclusives
Xbox beats PS3 in Marketplace content.