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Old 02-19-2013, 10:32 PM
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We will not release any screenshots until we’re completely satisfied with all aspects of the game. I think I’ve mentioned this in a previous post, but the reason is that once we do, review sites will want more shots, more footage, more interviews, etc., and we will want to do our best to oblige them. It’s part of our plan. But that will be difficult for an indie like us to do until the game is mostly complete.

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You mean just like you started doing in Fall 2010?

Then what did happened during the last two and a half years, maybe nothing? Guess we'll never know, doesn't sound like you want us to know.

I never realized how difficult it is to take the time to post screenshots, answer questions and make videos. You obviously have much better things to do then preoccupy yourself with such tedious chores. I mean, I do it for free helping other indy developers out of the goodness of my heart but whatever...

You have failed to deliver your product on time more than once and never explained yourself. You certainly don't have to, you don't owe me anything, I'm just starting to wonder what exactly you're doing here beside telling us that there's nothing to talk about.

Best of luck with your game, I can't say I truthfully mean that because, you know, I'm not really sure it does exist.

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Old 02-19-2013, 11:48 PM
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You mean just like you started doing in Fall 2010?

Then what did happened during the last two and a half years, maybe nothing? Guess we'll never know, doesn't sound like you want us to know.

I never realized how difficult it is to take the time to post screenshots, answer questions and make videos. You obviously have much better things to do then preoccupy yourself with such tedious chores. I mean, I do it for free helping other indy developers out of the goodness of my heart but whatever...

You have failed to deliver your product on time more than once and never explained yourself. You certainly don't have to, you don't owe me anything, I'm just starting to wonder what exactly you're doing here beside telling us that there's nothing to talk about.

Best of luck with your game, I can't say I truthfully mean that because, you know, I'm not really sure it does exist.
Exactly my point... I've been following this thread for two years and I've gotten nothing but crap... When this game does come out good luck with ur sells because I'm not buying it... Congrats u just lost a dedicated follower who stuck with u through multiple false releases...
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:14 AM
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Alan's too polite to say it, so I will: some of you guys need to get a grip.

We suffered a 20-month delay with our last title where we did nothing but talk about the game prior to release until everyone was sick of hearing about it. As Alan said, if he post screenshots early here, every other site will start asking him for stuff. He then gets put in a position where he has to place his own critical tasks on hold, thus delaying the game further, or risk potentially alienating those sites by turning them down.

We screwed up with our 2010 announcement - that's been acknowledged, and now we move on. The last 2 1/2 years have been spent creating what we hope is one of the finest and most remarkable RPGs on the platform. Anyone who's ever attempted to develop a game with the quality and polish of a triple A title on an indie budget will understand the myriad of challenges and unexpected setbacks that entails. 95% of these projects either fail completely or fall well short. We're not going to do either. It's taken a lot longer than planned, but that isn't a situation that is unique to us. Just look at Blizzard.

Mr. Spud's earlier post is the perfect example of why it's better to keep quiet rather than providing well-intentioned estimates; get them wrong and someone will inevitably seize the opportunity to call you a liar and shit on you. This cycle is endlessly repeated on every developer forum in the land, with the same accusations, threats to not buy the game, and outright dickery, and the conclusion is always the same: It'll be done when it's done and no developer worth their salt is going to jeopardise their product to please some forum malcontents.

Speculating that the game is vapourware doesn't change the fact I have it sitting right here on my iPod.
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:30 AM
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You guys are taking your time to create a superior product? Good on you, keep at it.
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Old 02-20-2013, 04:04 AM
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Please Ossian stop teasing! Just one screenshot would be awesome, I feel like a little kid again waiting for Christmas Day. For the past 2 years I've been checking up on this game on a regular basis and its disappointing that there hasn't been any news.
We all know that the game isn't complete and it's not the final product but I don't think 1 screenshot should be too much to ask for. I'm not going to keep asking for more, just 1 is enough for me to keep me interested after 2 1/2 years of waiting...
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:15 AM
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comparing to blizzard, once they announce stuff, they give updates on the game like screens or where the game is at, etc. They don't say stuff like "it's coming, trust us" or "it's sitting on my desktop" without any proof. There is still a chance that this is vapourware. On another note, HEY i have a Ferrari and a Lamborghini in my garage but i can't show you pictures of it cause it's night time or something...
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:02 AM
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comparing to blizzard, once they announce stuff, they give updates on the game like screens or where the game is at, etc. They don't say stuff like "it's coming, trust us" or "it's sitting on my desktop" without any proof. There is still a chance that this is vapourware. On another note, HEY i have a Ferrari and a Lamborghini in my garage but i can't show you pictures of it cause it's night time or something...
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Just a quick update: The Shadow Sun has been delayed slightly until early next year. We're currently finishing off sound production, but the main story and all sidequests are playable from start to finish and everything is looking very polished.
Nothing's changed except we're closer to the finishing line now.
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:18 AM
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Isn't that game cancelled? Then that belongs to IB dungeons....I say this is more like final fantasy versus
The Last Guardian is not cancelled, but FF 13 Versus is another good example of a game that got everyone excited with early screenshots/video and then disappeared from the radar except for vague statements that "it's still being developed." There are others such as Beyond Good and Evil 2 and Prey 2. Unfortunately, none of those games (including Shadow Sun) can now live up to the anticipation they have generated.

As to whether TA members need to "get a grip," well, I guess that's a matter of opinion. It's not like this thread gets regular posts from folks demanding more information. In fact, I find the reaction rather muted considering that the developers have failed to follow through on pretty much anything they have stated.

Games get delayed all the time. But it is unusual for a team, no matter how small, to completely stonewall the same community that will most likely purchase their game. It's obviously their prerogative to do so, but as a marketing professional I can say that it's also very, very dumb.
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:49 AM
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Mr. Spud's earlier post is the perfect example of why it's better to keep quiet rather than providing well-intentioned estimates...
Your original estimate was a late 2010 release, then the next year, then the year after... that's not a well-intentioned estimate, not even close.

Ossian studios has very poor social and marketing skills, so bad that I do agree you should have kept your mouth shut, you are your own worst enemy. Please consider hiring a professional PR that can do what you can't, like take the time to talk to us lowly forum users.

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Old 02-20-2013, 07:10 AM
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So last I heard, you guys were shooting for a possible March announcement of the game's release date with screens and what not...is this still your goal, or will it be later than that?

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