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Old 12-27-2012, 09:58 AM
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No replies... I've settled on these to start the iCade goodness with...

League of Evil 1 or 2, Metal Slug 3, Raiden Legacy, Dynamite Jack and Velocispider.

I didn't find much of value in those Atari/Midway/Namco arcades personally.

A couple of these are kind of filler going against some of my guidelines, there just didn't seem to be more greats.

I also bought Katana Jack, Silverfish Max, AirAttack HD and PaperMonsters but I don't think I'll be giving them these right away for a first impression. They don't seem very good, unless iCade really elevates them.

But yeah, I remember Bomb Jack being way superior to Katana Jack in everything and especially controls and level design. And it's kind of obnoxious with its "drawn on iPad" crap all over. I don't care, I just wanna play a fun game. Silverish Max is way too barebones but could be fun if they get hooked. AirAttack HD has a bad perspective that makes your shots narrow as they advance which means being all the way to the bottom left of the screen and firing won't actually hit enemies on the top left of it, you'll miss by a mile. It pales in comparison to the Raiden games regardless. And PaperMonsters seems to lack in level design. I'll need to finish more levels to know but those constant slopes just look boring.

But yeah gonna keep these away for when they get bored of the first great batch.

I've tried all of them (without iCade yet) and Raiden is a very great port, I hope DotEmu do more iCade supported games, and not just shmups. KoF-i 2012 is taunting me by being iPhone only yet showing iPad screens too.

Anyway, am I missing a truly sweet iCade gem that wasn't suggested yet?

I'm still missing a game my sister would like more though. Shame Tetris doesn't support iCade.

But yeah, seeing the selection I really hope we'll get a Jailbreak for 6.0.2 or 6.1 if they're waiting for that to unveil their exploits on so I can get some more decent use out of it for them with the various emulators.
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Old 12-27-2012, 11:00 AM
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No replies... I've settled on these to start the iCade goodness with...

League of Evil 1 or 2, Metal Slug 3, Raiden Legacy, Dynamite Jack and Velocispider.

I didn't find much of value in those Atari/Midway/Namco arcades personally.

A couple of these are kind of filler going against some of my guidelines, there just didn't seem to be more greats.

I also bought Katana Jack, Silverfish Max, AirAttack HD and PaperMonsters but I don't think I'll be giving them these right away for a first impression. They don't seem very good, unless iCade really elevates them.
I say blow them away with variety from the start! You can never predict what someone else will like, vs. what you like.

I would put Silverfish and Dynamite Jack near the top of my own list. Maybe Forget-Me-Not. And Temple Run (not Brave) seems to be a crowd-pleaser: everyone who tries my iCade likes that one.
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Old 12-27-2012, 11:10 AM
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@Alextended: Jeff Minter games, especially Gridrunner!

Match Panic doesn't push any technical boundaries, but is a fantastic iCade twitch game. It's cute enough that your sister might like it.
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:02 PM
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Hmm, okay, I guess you've convinced me to go for variety, this is what the iCade ready folders look like now (on my iPad2, I'm gonna tell them - without telling them why - to delete the games and apps they don't intend to play again to make room and pass me their iPad2 to then sync with my iTunes after I receive the iCade to set it up)... I've only unlocked Pac-Man and Galaga on Namco's arcade thing iirc, all the games on Midway's (pro-tip: don't go on buying sprees in the early am, ugh). I had a few more in my list too but I removed a few for now, some freebies like Super Lemonade Factory and some seriously disappointing games that soured me like katana Jack, Bomb Jack was so much better it's not even funny.

http://minus.com/mbxar0pAlR8Vfi

I can't really buy more games atm, I need to put more money in my online purchases bank account, I don't want it to get locked again and be unable to get updates and freebies etc. If there are any freebies (but not demos/lites etc) I'd like to know. And suggestions for the future are welcome. But yeah that's it to start with.

Forget-Me-Not looks cool, I should have gotten that instead of the lazy Namco/Midway arcade ports.

Still disappointed with the lack of support, really crazy Crazy Taxi, Apocalypse Max, and tons of others don't support it, and that there are not many retro ports, hoping for Jailbreaks to pop up soon to use that blutrol thing and other emulators.

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Old 12-27-2012, 05:18 PM
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@Alextended
Games I am very fond of, but haven't heard mentioned are:

Super Crate Box: Extremely playable, single screen, survival platformer.
Retro Racing: Top down racer with simple but addictive gameplay.
Vectrex Regeneration: My favorite emulator pack right now.
Blast Soccer: Cross between super crate box and a crazy sports game.
Space Inversion 2 HD: Great Space Invaders remake.
Qwak HD: Remake of original Amiga game. Bubble Bobble style gameplay with lots of added elements.
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:03 PM
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Thanks.

I have Super Crate Box and Muffin Knight too.

Qwak HD looks promising, maybe Retro Racing too.

Blast soccer doesn't seem like something I'd like but I'll suggest it for them later.

Active Soccer actually seems kinda cool though, but maybe not without multiplayer.

What are Vectrex games like? I don't think they'll enjoy too primitive things (I doubt they'll like even any of the Midway and Namco Arcade games but oh well) but on looks alone it doesn't seem as old school, if they play fun and smoothly. And hopefully it's more true to the real deal than the Namco and Midway Arcades.

Also I forgot to say I unlocked Rolling Thunder as well in the Namco arcade. So, three games, Pac-Man, Galaga and that. I never played it but it reminds me of Shinobi from watching the demo which I love so at least I'll be enjoying that.

For Space Invaders likes I was hoping to find some official remake like those they put out on XBLA but there don't seem to be any on iOS. Well, a couple that don't have iCade support. Oh yeah, I guess Velocispider is kind of like Space Invaders.

No good Taito ports as far as I saw either. Well, Bubble Bobble and Puzzle Bubble Bobble (Bust-A-Move) looked nice enough but they don't support iCade afaik. They should let DotEmu port all these old games, it would be amazing to have the likes of Bomb Jack, Rainbow Islands, Ghouls and Ghosts, Garou, Shinobi and a million other greats, with iPad being a very affordable and easy way for people to get their own arcade cabinet style fun, if the ports are as good as Raiden Legacy (I see older DotEmu games aren't, with MS3 not even having official polished iCade support, but hopefully they will patch or at least make new ones good). Although DotEmu shouldn't do those modern graphics menus etc, outside title select and options.

Another annoyance I found is the games that don't have portrait mode for no reason, like Namco's Arcade. I can't wait for Jailbreak to play these games with MAME instead and all its options and more true to the arcade experience.

Are there any good fighting games? Like King of Fighters. Something to use more than a couple buttons basically, lol. I think Soul Calibur supports it but it doesn't seem to be fully featured like the Dreamcast game. But I guess it might be worth getting as a showcase piece, like Metal Slug 3, despite the quite high price of it, if it doesn't drop frames on iPad2.

Any good beat em ups like Streets of Rage, Cadillacs and Dinosaurs? The few indie ones I saw didn't seem interesting.

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Old 12-28-2012, 01:22 AM
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Hmm, okay, I guess you've convinced me to go for variety, this is what the iCade ready folder looks like now (on my iPad2, I'm gonna tell them - without telling them why - to delete the games and apps they don't intend to play again and pass me their iPad2 to then sync with my iTunes after I receive the iCade to set it up)... Only unlocked Pac-Man and Galaga on Namco's arcade thing iirc, all the games on Midway's (pro-tip: don't go on buying sprees in the early am, ugh).
Sounds like a great gift!

Hopefully you've already thought of this, but you can't mix apps from two different iTunes accounts on one device: if you want to gift an app you MUST either gift the app (via gift code) from the App Store, or else, I suppose, you must know their AppleID and password and use them to buy the apps directly to their device (and then reimburse them for the amount charged to their account).

You cannot download an app on your account and then copy it to someone else's device. It will not install.

If you made a mistake and bought those apps for your own account, instead of gifting them, there may be a way out: explain the situation to Apple's App Store support dept. Tell them you wanted to give these apps as gifts, and didn't understand how to do that. They may very well be understanding and give you a refund or a conversion to gift codes in some way. You never know until you ask.

I gave a bunch of apps as gifts myself. When you gift an app, you can either have a download link mailed to the person, or print a PDF "gift card" with a special code, or what I do: make my own card and put the code in it. The recipient goes to Redeem, enters the code, and gets the download. Not as dramatic as pre-loading the apps, but you could make it interesting by giving them a list of codes and not telling them what the codes will give them.

(I'm not aware of a way to gift in-app purchases.)

Worst case, you'll have to re-buy them all as gift codes. But at least you'll also have some great games for yourself as well!

PS: Metal Slug 3 needs a special trick to enable iCade control--see my post above.

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Old 12-28-2012, 01:37 AM
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just got my old ipad 2 set up with iMAME - First impressions are WOW it is amazing. Never thought I could turn my ipad into an arcade.
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:00 AM
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Hopefully you've already thought of this, but you can't mix apps from two different iTunes accounts on one device:
This is false, me and my brother in law and sister share our (two) accounts and you can easily share the games if you use iTunes on PC instead of just the devices. I'm sure this hasn't changed since I last did it because I did it very recently when I got my account locked and didn't want to miss some freebie offers so I downloaded them with their account and then transferred to my iPad with no problem (we share for convenience, not our money, but "purchasing" freebies is ok).

Edit: actually I did it just today, while re-downloading some games I had deleted and wanted to try again. Here is how.

I download the games on PC iTunes then sync both iPads choosing the games I want on each. If my brother in law buys a game on their iPad I log in with his account on iTunes PC and download it then sync my iPad again. iTunes on PC has no problem archiving apps from multiple accounts, you only have to log in to the one you want to download via its purchase history, other than that it doesn't care what you're logged in as to handle the backups or transfer to and from iPads.

If the apps get an update you can update on your iPad if you have the other account's password, it will automatically ask you to input the password for the account needed for each update rather than require you to manually log out then in then back to the other account or whatever. Or you can handle updating on PC iTunes as well in a similar manner though in that case you have to manually log in to each account to even see if any apps got updates, while on iPad it shows updates for games on both accounts, then asks for the needed passwords when you choose to download them.

You can do a lot of this even if you don't want to fully share accounts (passwords etc) as long as you're going to be handy when the other person wants to update some apps so you can input the password (it doesn't save if it's not the default account on iPad, it's just asked to update the apps tied to that account).

I hope you have use for this now if you really didn't know it's all possible and easy to do before

Oh, and Game Center stuff etc are registered to the playing iPad whether the game is owned by a different account or not.

Although now you mention IAP, I'm not sure how that is handled, it may in fact be that those games I unlocked in the arcade apps won't work once I transfer it to their iPad, I will have to test and see how/if it can be solved.

But those are only like ~4 worth anyway and they might not want them either.

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Old 12-28-2012, 02:58 PM
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I just watched the various Classic Game Room iCade reviews and now I'm even more hyped for it to arrive. I'll have to eventually get one for myself as well at this rate (but probably a core and only if I can get it for a nice price). It sounds like pure awesome. Make more games developers! He mentions there's no input lag in the hardware review video as well so it definitely depends on the software implementation I guess. Hopefully everyone will work it out.

iCade hardware review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DliJ2-sRYyM&hd=1

Blazing Star review
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VONrnkx2gw&hd=1

Shogun: Rise of the Renegade review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV5O67JT4vw&hd=1

Gridrunner review
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxQ3Wzw5-Bs&hd=1

ElectroMaster review
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLJEb0aS6XY&hd=1

Enborn-X review
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPOnU13Y9XA&hd=1

Midway Arcade review
www.youtube.com/watch?v=94tDp7A3uX4&hd=1

Vectrex Regeneration review
www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5aurz1aGWE&hd=1

AirAttack HD review
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfIBSt5nvuo&hd=1

Temple Run review
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjF3aJuRw1A&hd=1

Thanks to these reviews I also found this hidden apparent gem called ElectroMaster and sequel HungryMaster, both are 100% free too. I'll have to get Blazing Star after watching that and maybe GridRunner, they're shmups but very different to Raiden Legacy. Obviously I should have watched all that and more before ordering it but I'm glad to hear it delivers by someone who seems to have the experience and taste to know what he's talking about too.

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