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Defender Chronicles Ė for kids?

View Poll Results: Should we add kid difficulty?
Yes. Keep the easy difficulty as it is so itís still challenging enough for an adult. 26 50.98%
Donít add. Just make easy easier to a level it may bore veteran players. But veteran wonít use easy. 14 27.45%
Donít add. I will use it to finish the campaign and find the game too easy and boring. 3 5.88%
Donít bother about the kids. Just make the game as hard as possible; even on Easy. 5 9.80%
Other, please specify. 3 5.88%
Voters: 51. You may not vote on this poll
04-17-2009, 12:59 PM
#1
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Defender Chronicles Ė for kids?

As the launch date for Defender Chronicles is near, there are few things that Iím still not sure if we have made the best decision or not. Thus, I have to return to the wise council of TA for advices

Here is the dilemma. One of the tester reported that kids (around 10 years) can actually enjoy the game. We have then tested the game on several more kids and they can actually enjoy and win the first few maps; but none is able to win the entire campaign (this is on the easy difficulty).

To quote him:
"It wouldnít be fun if only older players would enjoy the game. I know a lot of times kids enjoy playing with the games on my Touch and it wouldnít be fun for them if it was too hard."

One of solution that we can think of is to add Kid difficulty level. But not everyone likes the idea. Having a Kid mode in a strategy game (a TD exactly) seems like a bad plague to avoid. Potential buyers will doubt the strategic aspect of the game and it will hurt sales.

How about you?
04-17-2009, 01:19 PM
#2
Joined: Apr 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gimka View Post
As the launch date for Defender Chronicles is near, there are few things that Iím still not sure if we have made the best decision or not. Thus, I have to return to the wise council of TA for advices

Here is the dilemma. One of the tester reported that kids (around 10 years) can actually enjoy the game. We have then tested the game on several more kids and they can actually enjoy and win the first few maps; but none is able to win the entire campaign (this is on the easy difficulty).

To quote him:
"It wouldnít be fun if only older players would enjoy the game. I know a lot of times kids enjoy playing with the games on my Touch and it wouldnít be fun for them if it was too hard."

One of solution that we can think of is to add Kid difficulty level. But not everyone likes the idea. Having a Kid mode in a strategy game (a TD exactly) seems like a bad plague to avoid. Potential buyers will doubt the strategic aspect of the game and it will hurt sales.

How about you?
why not just adjust the difficulty levels on the game so easy is the "kids" difficulty, having been a kid a long time ago, I definitely wouldn't click on the "kids" level ( kids want to act tough and be like adults ). Its simply a cosmetic thing.

04-17-2009, 01:26 PM
#3
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Location: USA
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I'm sure there are kids in this world with iPhones/iPod Touches that would buy this game. To appeal to all audiences, I think that you should have an easy difficulty for kids. I'm pretty sure there are some adults out there that will need that easy difficulty to beat the game also
04-17-2009, 01:27 PM
#4
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Location: Canada
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I'm 15, and tbh I'd probably use the kids difficulty.

Do it.

LOL
04-17-2009, 01:32 PM
#5
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I'm 29 and sure that for my skills, a 'kids' difficulty would help out heaps!

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04-17-2009, 01:46 PM
#6
Joined: Dec 2008
Location: Sacramento, CA
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I voted other, but it's a variation of:

Quote:
Donít add. Just make easy easier to a level it may bore veteran players. But veteran wonít use easy.
Make the kid level, call it "easy"

now make your old "easy" called "medium"

your old "medium" now called "hard"

and your old hard mode "insane", "difficult", etc...

So basically add the mode but call it "easy" and shift down all the mode names. Making the hardest setting, a new name.

So have four modes (assuming before it was just the three easy, medium, and hard)

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04-17-2009, 02:17 PM
#7
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Location: Indiana, USA
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I agree with the sentiment of just making the easy easier. A "kid's" mode just seems out of place for a strategy game, even if you are going to let the kids play it. The hardcore players won't touch the easy mode anyway, so you won't have to worry about that, and reviewers that aren't so skilled at playing games (like myself) can use the easy mode for the purpose of reviewing so that they can complete more of the game before writing their review (though hopefully they'll try more difficult modes before saying something stupid like "that's too easy"). I think you're right to say that for many people, having a mode labeled "kid's" would diminish any perception of challenging game play.

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04-17-2009, 05:01 PM
#8
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 340
dogmeat, thanks for the suggestion. You can vote on the second option. Itís what you are referring to. Sorry if itís not clear. The vote option is limited to 100 chars so I have to cut some words.

theone1007, shigzeo, I understand. The question now is if we should add a new difficulty level or should we just make the current easy even easier (but beware that this may bore the experienced players if we do this).

Burton, can I prohibit you from using the kid mode? LOL

PointOfLight, yes, thatís my concern. Letís see what the vote result says.

Zincous, as of now, there are 4 difficulty levels:
- Casual: designed specifically for casual players.
- Veteran: designed specifically for veteran TD players.
- Master: designed for those who want the extra challenge.
- Heroic: this is for those masochists out there who would like to be punished again and again

Each difficulty is designed so it can be won with perfect score and without selling any tower. But just for a note, only one tester so far has been able to win Heroic level and itís only on the first map. So, the game is already leaning toward the hard side.
04-17-2009, 05:16 PM
#9
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i say yes. why?
it's a nice add for a real beginners. almost every tower defense (or a similar to this genre game) is not the easiest for amateurs - for example i thank God that someone created the creeps, cause they learned me how to play this kind of games.

but maybe an easy mode with a GREAT tutorial would be better (check out Build-A-Lot to see what i mean)...
04-17-2009, 05:25 PM
#10
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Location: Sacramento, CA
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Ok so call it "beginner" mode.

But I'm against using the word "kid" mode.

I think you should cover the ranges of difficulties (looks like you have the hard modes down )

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