STREET FIGHTER IV Volt - [Capcom]

[berserk_2nd]

Originally Posted by HEIF_37

He admits defeat! Make sure you screen shot this page and put it on your resume, Beserker, he ain't gonna let you do that again

Haha I think I should do it now, actually slrc_91 was in winning streak before I left. I'm sure if we continued, he gonna win more.

[HEIF_37]

Originally Posted by berserk_2nd

Good games, dude. So far u r the best guile I met, and don't be humble man, we got even today. Sorry I have some dodgeball game later and have to go. Thanks for those games.

His Guile ability is truly amazing... one of a kind.

[Nichol140]

This will be EPIC!

[Apprunner]

Originally Posted by HEIF_37

His Guile ability is truly amazing... one of a kind.

Yeah but don't discount Berserk. I think he's every bit as good as the best Sagats out there. Top 2 or 3 for sure and on any given day, one of them will get the hot hand and be the best. Whats really impressive is that he grinds in rankings and if he just uses Sagat, can maintain a 3.5 -4k BP. Gonna have to call him S-tier for sure soon

[HEIF_37]

Originally Posted by Apprunner

Yeah but don't discount Berserk. I think he's every bit as good as the best Sagats out there. Top 2 or 3 for sure and on any given day, one of them will get the hot hand and be the best. Whats really impressive is that he grinds in rankings and if he just uses Sagat, can maintain a 3.5 -4k BP. Gonna have to call him S-tier for sure soon

I've played his Sagat, it is for sure up there with the good ones. Good blocking, patience, and has that retarded combo down every single time lol...

I was talking to slrc.. I'm thinking that if you had to manual input it would be more fair, for all characters.

Being able to uppercut, press F, Then K, then ultra and do almost 3/4 HP depending on situation is just a little crazy, especially because if your as skilled as Beserk, once you connect the uppercut its almost impossible to miss your ultra..

but think, after you FADC, you get a kick, then have to do two quarter circles or something, at least it would be the timing a tiny bit trickier...

[Apprunner]

Originally Posted by HEIF_37

I've played his Sagat, it is for sure up there with the good ones. Good blocking, patience, and has that retarded combo down every single time lol...

I was talking to slrc.. I'm thinking that if you had to manual input it would be more fair, for all characters.

Being able to uppercut, press F, Then K, then ultra and do almost 3/4 HP depending on situation is just a little crazy, especially because if your as skilled as Beserk, once you connect the uppercut its almost impossible to miss your ultra..

but think, after you FADC, you get a kick, then have to do two quarter circles or something, at least it would be the timing a tiny bit trickier...

I agree but you just can't pull it off consistently on a virtual stick. A charge character is inherently a little easier to pull off specials on a virtual stick vs. someone like a Gief with a full circle movement

I'm not denying SLRC is amazing...the best Guile on Volt and he's proven he can pull off move execution without SP assist on almost any character. No denying he is S-tier.

[HEIF_37]

Originally Posted by Apprunner

I agree but you just can't pull it off consistently on a virtual stick. A charge character is inherently a little easier to pull off specials on a virtual stick vs. someone like a Gief with a full circle movement

I'm not denying SLRC is amazing...the best Guile on Volt and he's proven he can pull off move execution without SP assist on almost any character. No denying he is S-tier.

Man, full circles are hard to do on a real stick LOL (without jumping anyway)

I know what you mean though.... virtual stick makes it tough lol... Yeah Beserk is good, his bison is pretty good too!

[mooken]

Originally Posted by HEIF_37

Man, full circles are hard to do on a real stick LOL (without jumping anyway)

I know what you mean though.... virtual stick makes it tough lol... Yeah Beserk is good, his bison is pretty good too!

Gief isn't too bad, he's easier on the vpad than he was on the SNES controller.

forward, down, back, upback + P gets piledrivers without jumping.
the double circles definitely harder for his super/revenge is infinitely harder.

[slrc_91]

Originally Posted by Apprunner

I agree but you just can't pull it off consistently on a virtual stick. A charge character is inherently a little easier to pull off specials on a virtual stick vs. someone like a Gief with a full circle movement

I'm not denying SLRC is amazing...the best Guile on Volt and he's proven he can pull off move execution without SP assist on almost any character. No denying he is S-tier.

SP assistant, manual inputs and ultras will be always polemical topics.

Of course, a charge character has the advantage when you're playing without SP assistant. But I don't feel it's a biiiiig problem for a non-charge character to pull off moves without SP assistant in online enviroment.

About the ultras is almost the same. We don't use shortcut ultras because of the bad timing, we use shortcut ultras to make sure the ultra will connect. The hardes ultras to pull off aren't from non-charge characters. Guile and Vega are the hardest to manually do in online enviroment. And well... Guile has one of the less useful ultras, so I don't feel like I can talk about Sagat's or the manual imput.

[slrc_91]

Originally Posted by mooken

Gief isn't too bad, he's easier on the vpad than he was on the SNES controller.

forward, down, back, upback + P gets piledrivers without jumping.
the double circles definitely harder for his super/revenge is infinitely harder.

I don't think is that hard. At leas is easier than Guile's.

The thing is Gief only have 2 situations to pull of the super/ultra manually: after a FA or after a jump. Honda is on the same situation with his ultra.

Guile has to camp and do the motion. But who jumps over a down-charge Guile. Doing it after a FA would work, but still is hard and most of the time you will fail. Or you won't connect the full ultra.