STREET FIGHTER IV Volt - [Capcom] - Page 501

rshkhsee · #**5001** 10-23-2011, 10:07 PM

Also, cool fights SoulBlade, Was some good fights there. I was pretty clumsy the whole time, nice kickin my ass!

rshkhsee · #**5002** 10-23-2011, 10:37 PM

Nuthin'..

SoulBlade · #**5003** 10-23-2011, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rshkhsee

Also, cool fights SoulBlade, Was some good fights there. I was pretty clumsy the whole time, nice kickin my ass!

Lol. The Vega mirror was hilarious.
The end especially. Grabbed you 3 times in a row with the izuna drop thing.

NotYou · #**5004** 10-24-2011, 01:36 AM

I've found this same thing happening about everyday. I'll be having a good string of matches going and then my opponent decides to try to be clever and starts playing nonstop defense. Basically, he'll spend the whole match trying to be on the other side of the screen. Eventually I'll get so bored and frustrated that I'll screw up. Usually I'll still win (100% defense can't win, obviously), but sometimes they'll get ahead with somebody like Dalsim.

Regardless of the results, we don't play again and the good string of matches we had is over. I refuse to play somebody who won't fight and tries to win by being boring.

Snooper · #**5005** 10-24-2011, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NotYou

I've found this same thing happening about everyday. I'll be having a good string of matches going and then my opponent decides to try to be clever and starts playing nonstop defense. Basically, he'll spend the whole match trying to be on the other side of the screen. Eventually I'll get so bored and frustrated that I'll screw up. Usually I'll still win (100% defense can't win, obviously), but sometimes they'll get ahead with somebody like Dalsim.

Regardless of the results, we don't play again and the good string of matches we had is over. I refuse to play somebody who won't fight and tries to win by being boring.

Well thats a perfectly legit strategy to be honest. Characters like sagat, dhalsim and guile aren't (usually) going to rush you down, why would they. I've played lots of dhalsims and not one has gone offensive on me (at the start of the round, usually when I play dhalsims ill try and get an early life lead and then just turtle them

eventually they teleport and just eat a dp. give em a taste of their own medicine

). Saying that you refuse to play someone who's playing 'boring' is cutting out a pretty large percentage of the players and isn't really gonna get you anywhere.

I used to get so mad at guiles. Its a horrible matchup for cammy, especially since she can't crossup in volt. I used to quit as soon as I saw guile come up.

What I did was I played guile for a few hours over the next few days and realised, hes not as broken as I thought, it actually takes skill to play him. That changed my whole outlook, I realised I was the scrub. Whenever a Dhalsim or Cody (or someone I just beat really convincingly) player would rage quit, or send me a message saying 'Cammy is so cheap use a real character' etc. I would scoff. I knew they were the scrub who didnt learn the matchup properly or whatever and decided that they knew the game better than me and Cammy is broken.

This game is actually really balanced. More balanced than AE, more balanced than Vanilla, about the same as super. AE of course has the twins and fei, vanilla has sagat, the best character in super is debatable...Cammy, Guile Akuma, Honda, Fei, Chun, Abel, Bison are all top tier for sure but "The Best" isn't clear.

Volt is kind of the same. I personally think Sagat is the best, but I'm sure alot of people think akuma, I'm sure alot think honda, I'm sure alot think ken (lol)....But even though Sagat is the best (imo) it's not by far. The only problem I have with this game is that some of the characters just havent been given their strongest tools (Sakura and Yun especially come to mind).

Anyway I strayed a fair bit from your comment but you've gotta take everyones play style as legit. Blankas are gonna slide, hondas are gonna headbutt, akumas are gonna fireball etc. You just have to learn how to beat different strategies, otherwise they're the better player, boring or not. I always get a LOL when I get a rage message about cammys 'unblockable' hooligan throw, just duck FFS!

PS. Seriously though, I don't know how akumas who literally don't do anything except fireball, super and ultra enjoy themselves. And then send a rage message saying cammy is cheap cos she can spiral arrow under air fireballs.....

Nullroar · #**5006** 10-24-2011, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NotYou

I've found this same thing happening about everyday. I'll be having a good string of matches going and then my opponent decides to try to be clever and starts playing nonstop defense. Basically, he'll spend the whole match trying to be on the other side of the screen. Eventually I'll get so bored and frustrated that I'll screw up. Usually I'll still win (100% defense can't win, obviously), but sometimes they'll get ahead with somebody like Dalsim.

Regardless of the results, we don't play again and the good string of matches we had is over. I refuse to play somebody who won't fight and tries to win by being boring.

If someone wins, they win. A balanced offense should wreck a good defense. If they refuse to leave the corner, start building meter (safely). It usually pressures them into leaving corner (or risk giving you a ton of free supers).

You don't have to commit when they run and hide. Just show them that you are perfectly happy to build meter. If you have fireballs, there's no shame in spamming them. Safe-on-block specials (for chip damage) like scissor kick are your friend as well. Make sure to do them randomly - not just as soon as you can, one after another. Bait a counter. Once you have a life lead of more than a few hits, you can play D of your own and force them to be aggressive before the clock runs out.

Shoryutofu · #**5007** 10-24-2011, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by NotYou

Basically, he'll spend the whole match trying to be on the other side of the screen.

Thats pretty much how most of my Gief matches ends up being like. I've played close to about 5,000 matches with just Gief on volt and probably more then 2500 were against defensive/keep aways and about a 1000 of those were ragequitters.
Imagine playing best out of 7 with someone that spends all their effort trying to keep away. The crazy part is I keep coming back for more.

What can I say, I'm a glutton for punishment.
I think I've develope a tolerance for players like that. If I hadn't, I'd prabably be a ragequitter myself lol.

All I can tell you is don't take the game too seriously. Just have fun with it and if someone plays in a way you don't like, then move on to the next match (but don't ragequit lol).
I've only recently come to this conclusion myself and I have to say I enjoy the game so mu ch more.

Edit: But I also agree with both Snooper and Nullroar.

Shoryutofu · #**5008** 10-24-2011, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by arten

..... died ((
I always look here http://yourdeathdate.info/1/index.html
Death when it comes will have no denial.

WTH. Why would I click on a link like that.

Snooper · #**5009** 10-24-2011, 03:10 AM

one thing that pisses me off more than ragequitting is when ill win say 3 matches, the other guy will then win 1 and leave. OH MA GAWD?!?!

Shoryutofu · #**5010** 10-24-2011, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Snooper

one thing that pisses me off more than ragequitting is when ill win say 3 matches, the other guy will then win 1 and leave. OH MA GAWD?!?!

Lol, but you knew that was going to happen right?
Salty win and run. He sure showed you.