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Old 10-10-2012, 05:39 PM
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Default Topia World Builder suggestions thread

I don't believe this had already been started so I'm officially starting it here. Would be great to get your thoughts and feedback about Topia so that we can plan future updates! Anything goes (obviously we have to choose what is doable)
Thanks so much for checking it out!
-Josh
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:52 PM
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I'd prefer it to not have humans. I don't want an Age of Empires but more of a Spore. I have bought the game but haven't played much of it yet.
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:55 PM
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I'd like community sharing of worlds a la Eden. I know it'd be difficult, it's just a suggestion.
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Old 10-11-2012, 01:05 AM
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My number one suggestion for an update is the ability to save our world/creation in its current state and resume where we left off.
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:18 AM
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My number one suggestion for an update is the ability to save our world/creation in its current state and resume where we left off.
It would be quite easy to save out the entire world state but, for complex reasons, a dump of the entire world state takes around ten times as much space as a recording of an hour of 'play'. This is an issue because we want to make Topia about sharing worlds. Obviously in it's current state it's a little useless with no fast forward but that's going in right now. I'm pretty sure it'll be able to fast wind at around 50x speed.
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:51 AM
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It would be quite easy to save out the entire world state but, for complex reasons, a dump of the entire world state takes around ten times as much space as a recording of an hour of 'play'. This is an issue because we want to make Topia about sharing worlds. Obviously in it's current state it's a little useless with no fast forward but that's going in right now. I'm pretty sure it'll be able to fast wind at around 50x speed.
Thanks for the explanation, Glenn. I had a feeling there must be some technical reason why we can't save the current state and resume where we left off. The ability to fast forward would certainly help a lot. Glad to hear you are working on it.

The world building tools are excellent, and I could easily see myself spending hours creating and tinkering with one world, but I'm reluctant to do so at present knowing that I would have to sit through the whole playback in real time before I can resume where I left off.

Great work so far, and I look forward to the fast forward capabilities in an update.

EDIT - Another thing Glenn, when you say it takes ten times more space to save the entire world state, how much space are you talking about? Is it unreasonably huge?

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Old 10-11-2012, 03:36 AM
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...with no fast forward but that's going in right now. I'm pretty sure it'll be able to fast wind at around 50x speed.
This is enough for me regarding savegames my suggestions for future updates are:

- weather: rain, snow, wind, etc. Randomized if possible.
- temperature: hot/cold regions, possibility to change temperature. I guess this is directly related to the aforementioned "weather" option.
- fish: I think you said you're on it.
- different water level: to be able to make waterfalls, mountain lakes, etc.
- more animals and interaction between them? I haven't played much yet, so I don't know the interaction between animals that we have.

I like the game idea as it is now: and open sandbox world creator. I don't know if my ideas are programmer-friendly or not, but those are the ideas I had thanks for your work. Even in its current state it's been well worth the 0.79
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:17 AM
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EDIT - Another thing Glenn, when you say it takes ten times more space to save the entire world state, how much space are you talking about? Is it unreasonably huge?
The entire world state is around 3mb compressed, not huge but way more than the 100kb that represents a 15 minute recording. The fully dumped level isn't unreasonably huge but right now we're not sure exactly what sharing mechanism we'll be using.
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:22 AM
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Why do you have to go through the playback before you can edit again? Is it not possible to scrap that?
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:01 AM
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Why do you have to go through the playback before you can edit again? Is it not possible to scrap that?
The game has to run through the replay, it will be possible to fast forward through it or even have a 'start from where I was last time' button that fast winds for you. This is almost working here already and will be submitted very soon.
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