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Old 02-10-2013, 09:30 PM
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Hi dudes and dudettes.
I was surfing on my favorite gaming websites, and, as an old-timer hardcore gamer, I'm thinking about stop reading or even stop playing.

I read that old story about the score given to games. Lets go for the reasons I want to give up:

- Some websites attacked TA or S2P grades. Battle of the Bulge, for example. Of course it would get a low grade, it's a Niche game. Gamespot gave low grades to Disgaea 3 and 4, and I liked them. But it's niche! I understand the grade, it means "not for everyone".

- some new websites do the famous "attack a good game to attract viewers". They hire these trolls to write review and respond to comment with such a level of trollage and rudeness. The Polygon website, for example. They gave 9.5 to Dead Space 3, and 6.5 to Ni No Kuni. I stopped buying games on spot, and I was really saving change money to buy Ni No Kuni, since everybody is praising it. Now these guys bash the game, and they destroyed the good feeling I was having on the pre buy phase. Nothing against Dead Space, but a sequel get such a high score, and a new iP getting such a bash? Have you saw the comments of the Dead Space reviewer about games? It's just sad.

- sometimes I feel that my inner nerdy space of games is been invaded. It's cool to have super heroes movies, but the same trolls that made my life a hell at high school are migrating to nerdy circles. And they are called professionals, critics! The same mainstream propaganda that I ran from when I decided stop watching tv, or hanging out with mainstream people, is invading, with brute force, our safe haven.

- These Internet vloggers that are praised nowadays. They can't ready criticism, and if you critic, they throw their entire community on your head. They put their thoughts on a public media, but can't be touched and use the master argument: don't like, don't read it. No! If you want someone who disagrees to ignore you, don't put your damn opinions online! If we critic, we receive the same bullying treatment that I got when I said in my class room that I don't like football! "What? You don't feel like the majority! You're a ass/troll/reviewer-wannabe!"

- comment sections of websites are a proof of the decadence. Pseudo unemployed writes making mean statements just to enter in flames and have something to do on their Saturday night. And every time you try to make a point, you're a troll or a fanboy. No middle ground. Or you love, and you are praised for thinking about everybody, or you're a troll, have your comments excluded, or even get banned, just because your opinions don't match. It's high school all over again. If I want to run from this forced way of thinking, I don't have the gaming community to rely anymore, because sometimes, I'm running from them!

- the guy from polygon stated:
Arthur Gies
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@bfod if i was talking about how games make me feel, the most common response would be: nothing. or: this is gross.

Really? Am I the only one who giggles when the Angry Birds drop the whole structure on a piggys head? Or feel amazed with a good combination of character and music score on Deus Ex? Or feel empowered when my team wins on Awesomenauts. Am I wrong?

The gaming community was the place that I could run to, to prove that filling my real world with a glimpse of an imaginary, make believe world made the real world more colorful. This same place community, nowadays, is saying that I'm a troll/fanboy and games and merely tools to waste time, and just like Microsoft Office, the number of features defines the software.

What Am I missing?

I'm writing here because these forums have the best people I met in the community. Sorry about the insomnia rambles of a tired mind.

I'd be glad to hear your thoughts.
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:36 PM
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I know, but games are not just the playing for me. Is the community praising what is good, talking about our experiences. I'm feeling that the last thing people do now is share their feelings and thoughts about the whole gaming experience...
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:23 PM
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The majority of the gaming community is stuffed up in my opinion
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:36 PM
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I'm tired of how "Console Gamers" look down on "iOS Gamers" it's the "I'm better than you syndrome". They think just because a game doesn't cost $60 dollars its gonna suck and be lame. Dead Space is a great game and I also like Mass Effect:Infiltrator and Shadowgun. I just don't get the snobby attitude many console enthusiasts have against the iOS platform. Screw them I say. Let them sink $60 into a game with IAPs.
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Old 02-11-2013, 12:19 AM
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Hi dudes and dudettes.
I was surfing on my favorite gaming websites, and, as an old-timer hardcore gamer, I'm thinking about stop reading or even stop playing.

I read that old story about the score given to games. Lets go for the reasons I want to give up:

- Some websites attacked TA or S2P grades. Battle of the Bulge, for example. Of course it would get a low grade, it's a Niche game. Gamespot gave low grades to Disgaea 3 and 4, and I liked them. But it's niche! I understand the grade, it means "not for everyone".

- some new websites do the famous "attack a good game to attract viewers". They hire these trolls to write review and respond to comment with such a level of trollage and rudeness. The Polygon website, for example. They gave 9.5 to Dead Space 3, and 6.5 to Ni No Kuni. I stopped buying games on spot, and I was really saving change money to buy Ni No Kuni, since everybody is praising it. Now these guys bash the game, and they destroyed the good feeling I was having on the pre buy phase. Nothing against Dead Space, but a sequel get such a high score, and a new iP getting such a bash? Have you saw the comments of the Dead Space reviewer about games? It's just sad.

- sometimes I feel that my inner nerdy space of games is been invaded. It's cool to have super heroes movies, but the same trolls that made my life a hell at high school are migrating to nerdy circles. And they are called professionals, critics! The same mainstream propaganda that I ran from when I decided stop watching tv, or hanging out with mainstream people, is invading, with brute force, our safe haven.

- These Internet vloggers that are praised nowadays. They can't ready criticism, and if you critic, they throw their entire community on your head. They put their thoughts on a public media, but can't be touched and use the master argument: don't like, don't read it. No! If you want someone who disagrees to ignore you, don't put your damn opinions online! If we critic, we receive the same bullying treatment that I got when I said in my class room that I don't like football! "What? You don't feel like the majority! You're a ass/troll/reviewer-wannabe!"

- comment sections of websites are a proof of the decadence. Pseudo unemployed writes making mean statements just to enter in flames and have something to do on their Saturday night. And every time you try to make a point, you're a troll or a fanboy. No middle ground. Or you love, and you are praised for thinking about everybody, or you're a troll, have your comments excluded, or even get banned, just because your opinions don't match. It's high school all over again. If I want to run from this forced way of thinking, I don't have the gaming community to rely anymore, because sometimes, I'm running from them!

- the guy from polygon stated:
Arthur Gies
@aegies
@bfod if i was talking about how games make me feel, the most common response would be: nothing. or: this is gross.

Really? Am I the only one who giggles when the Angry Birds drop the whole structure on a piggys head? Or feel amazed with a good combination of character and music score on Deus Ex? Or feel empowered when my team wins on Awesomenauts. Am I wrong?

The gaming community was the place that I could run to, to prove that filling my real world with a glimpse of an imaginary, make believe world made the real world more colorful. This same place community, nowadays, is saying that I'm a troll/fanboy and games and merely tools to waste time, and just like Microsoft Office, the number of features defines the software.

What Am I missing?

I'm writing here because these forums have the best people I met in the community. Sorry about the insomnia rambles of a tired mind.

I'd be glad to hear your thoughts.
Wow, you've got some serious issues, guy! You need to get your meds in order and get a check-up-from-the-neck-up! Get some help before you hurt some innocent person! Man, you talk of such insecurity and shame! Been bullied early on and had a terrible time in your school days, everyone's messing with your head. You're so sensitive it's outrageous! Everywhere you look everyone's letting you down and it's as if you've lost your last place to hide in the world and you don't know where to run. Seriously dude, grow a ball sack and stop being such a panty-waste. Might as well give up gaming, too. Probably can't tell fantasy from reality anyway!!

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Old 02-11-2013, 12:25 AM
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I honestly wouldn't worry, you have your "look at me's", your "mr highbrow interfactual's" that correct everything based on their view of the world, your trolls and your people that just vent because they're not very happy.

You also have a lot of genuinely helpful people, just eject the tiresome and focus on the good.
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Old 02-11-2013, 02:06 AM
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I honestly wouldn't worry, you have your "look at me's", your "mr highbrow interfactual's" that correct everything based on their view of the world, your trolls and your people that just vent because they're not very happy.

You also have a lot of genuinely helpful people, just eject the tiresome and focus on the good.
That's very true. That last sentence in particular is good advice for anyone who blogs these days to tell themselves.
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Old 02-11-2013, 02:32 AM
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I'm tired of how "Console Gamers" look down on "iOS Gamers" it's the "I'm better than you syndrome". They think just because a game doesn't cost $60 dollars its gonna suck and be lame. Dead Space is a great game and I also like Mass Effect:Infiltrator and Shadowgun. I just don't get the snobby attitude many console enthusiasts have against the iOS platform. Screw them I say. Let them sink $60 into a game with IAPs.
Meh...I think the reason for their snobbish attitudes is mainly because ios gamers like to bring up 'console like' games for comparison...they are obviously going to lose out in many areas. It is nothing to do with the price >.>.. there are lots of sub $10 indie games on Console and PC that are well received on all gaming sites. I got a DRM free copy of Legend of Grimrock for less than Horn and I also obtained Bastion and Limbo for almost next to nothing in an indie bundle. The games which really makes ios shine as a gaming platform are the games that are really native and unique to the platform like infinity blade, dark meadows, waking mars etc.

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Old 02-11-2013, 06:16 AM
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I'm tired of how "Console Gamers" look down on "iOS Gamers" it's the "I'm better than you syndrome". They think just because a game doesn't cost $60 dollars its gonna suck and be lame. Dead Space is a great game and I also like Mass Effect:Infiltrator and Shadowgun. I just don't get the snobby attitude many console enthusiasts have against the iOS platform. Screw them I say. Let them sink $60 into a game with IAPs.
Try being a console owner when PC gamers exist. Far worse.

Regarding the topic at hand... read reviews for information and not opinions. Look for any bugs that occurred, estimated length of game, number of characters/levels, extra modes, supported audio, etc. These are all factual and if you've been playing games a long time then you'll know what sounds good to you. The rest is babble.

I check out Metacritic to get a rough consensus on how a game was received, as there's a good chance that if everybody scored it low, it's genuinely not a great game. But I still keep in mind my personal preferences and know there are a few genres I'll enjoy regardless of reception.

I also read other reviews, but mainly just to pick up information as stated above, rather than to find out if the reviewer enjoyed it. It's important to know where your priorities lie too. If they state the game is 50+ hours in length but suffers from an uninspiring soundtrack and deduct points because of that, I'll know their final score isn't something I'll agree with... but I like the sound of those 50 hours.

Essentially I'm constructing my own personal review out of existing ones. I'll pay attention to negative points, but mainly ones that are also mentioned in positive reviews as they're more likely to be honest criticism.

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Old 02-11-2013, 11:14 AM
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If this is a response to the Pocket Tactics drama, it's not really worth getting worked up over. Despite all the criticism and conspiracy theories, at least on TouchArcade, we're just a bunch of dudes (and dudettes) writing about games we like. Nothing more or less nefarious than that is going on behind the scenes.
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