The Year Walk Plot Speculation Thread

02-23-2013, 08:20 PM
#1
The Year Walk Plot Speculation Thread

Hey. I've noticed two threads on the Year Walk game. One just about the game, without spoliers, and one which decoding the hints the developers placed on the internet and in game. But their really isn't a thread where one can talk about spoilers without putting black bars. And with a game this complex and ambigious, black bars can become black walls.

So I'm making a plot speculation thread. Here's some ground rules.

1. You must have beaten the game! I'm don't want people yelling me saying that I spoiled the story for them. Okay?

2. If you have a different opinion, be polite. I don't want this to turn into Youtube!

3. Relax and enjoy the madness that is Year Walk.
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(Note, this all from post I made on another thread. I so if it seem's haphazard, I apologize. I'll rewrite it tomorrow.)

(Part 1)
You see, I've noticed that majority of us believe the Theodor year walked only once, which was to give Daniel the note and knife. I don't believe this. However, while it seems that year walking can be used to time travel, it's most infamous use visions which Theodor had many of.

But Theodor wasn't in the forest, he was somewhere else, so how could he year walk? I ask you, when was it ever stated that one must go to a specific church to break the rift? No, the year walk ritual in theory could be done any where, as long as you followed the rules.

And also, why wouldn't Theodor remember it? He did, in fact we all saw it. Like he said, if the future could be altered, why not the past? He looked into the past using the Year Walk, allowing him to see what happened himself. It's was seen the entries, remember?

This also explains a few things. When one takes a Year Walk, their lives are always ruined, and they always suffer. Isn't it interesting that at the beginning E.S. and the people that Theodor worked with were interested in Year walking, but the moment Theodor began having the visions they turned hostile? Not slowly hostile, but right then and there?

Also this explains why Theodor had a vision of him 'breaking' the rules. Because he did. Theodor at some point after finding the box began Year walking, and his life slowly was ruined by the watchers. He simply saw this as dreams. However, he slowly discovered the Watchers by Year Walking, and figured out a way to change the past. He then he year walks for one last time... or so we think.

What do I mean by this? I might tell you later after I formulate more of my mad theories. Tell me what you think, alright.

(Part 2)
I should have mention this, but it is just a thought rolling around inside my head. Comparing Daniel's year walk to Theodor is important because of one thing, the goals. Daniel wanted to see the future, in doing so he sealed his own fate. However if we are to say Theodore Year Walked multiple times, has it ever been said he year walked to the future? Theodor changed the past, but he never looked into the future.

However we need to also think about how time works in Year Walk. If Theodor succeded in Year Walking, Daniel would have died in the forest. But this means that Theodor would never found the box, since it was only by researching Daniel did he begin his path to madness.

Theodor seemed to think in one of the pictures, by Year Walking, you can 'rise above it all' but still be doomed He then underlines how. Theodor broke the rules, but by choosing the goal, he found a loophole.


Finally, I noticed something that may or may not make the second ending even more depressing, if you look at it in that way. Daniel says in the newspaper clipping, "I should have killed my self, then none of this wouldn't have happened." What if Daniel unlocked the box, but even after the reading the contents, he continued the Year Walk? After all, it's still just a few pieces of paper. If I had read that, I wouldn't want to believe it.

(Part 3)

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So, what happened to Almstedt and where is he now?
That really depends on how you look at it. If Theodor was able to cheat the Watchers, then he is still may be in rift, basically rising above God, and the rules of this universe.

But if Daniel still year walked even with the information known, Theodor might be trapped in a endless cycle of year walking, trying to change the future. And if you think about the Walk Again? line in that perspective when you restart the game, it gets even more depressing. Heck, maybe that's the entire point of the game. Just like Theodore and Daniel, we want a better future, but when we the player try to break the rules of the game, in a way we make it even worse. While depressing, I think it's quite poetic if you see it in that perspective.

Add Notes
Realized that if Daniel continues Year Walk, he also has the knife that is believed to have killed Stina.

Last edited by GoatisGod; 02-23-2013 at 08:31 PM.
02-23-2013, 08:33 PM
#2
Wrong section, thread should be moved to General Game Discussion.

02-23-2013, 08:34 PM
#3
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Originally Posted by chimpman252 View Post
Wrong section, thread should be moved to General Game Discussion.
(Begins hitting wall with head)
Ugh... note to self. WHen you join a forum for the sake awesome game. Think next time.

Uh.. yeah. I'm an idiot.
02-24-2013, 12:31 AM
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Ok. Word is out on the web that there is a third ending maybe.
There are also the following posts:


February 23, 2013 at 8:43 AM
The games is much deeper than it appears..... http://almsten.se/

February 23, 2013 at 8:46 AM
The devs buried clues in web sites..... http://www.vedtorp.se/

Do we still miss something? Maybe something too obvious? And now?


Btw, the text on the runestone means:

"Around my crypt in the sacred order."



It wasn't just made up, but it was only an in-game hint.

Hi, you seemed to be lost on the Internets.
This is TouchArcade, where 2$ for a game is too much, 5$ is an outrage, and 10$ or more is putting sugar in their car tanks whilst killing puppies.

Last edited by Vovin; 02-24-2013 at 12:56 AM.
02-24-2013, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Vovin View Post
Ok. Word is out on the web that there is a third ending maybe.
There are also the following posts:


February 23, 2013 at 8:43 AM
The games is much deeper than it appears..... http://almsten.se/

February 23, 2013 at 8:46 AM
The devs buried clues in web sites..... http://www.vedtorp.se/

Do we still miss something? Maybe something too obvious? And now?


Btw, the text on the runestone means:

"Around my crypt in the sacred order."

It wasn't just made up, but it was only an in-game hint.
Huh, so what makes it a third ending? It's possible that they're just hinting at plot pieces...also where are those status updates from?
02-24-2013, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by coderkid View Post
Huh, so what makes it a third ending? It's possible that they're just hinting at plot pieces...also where are those status updates from?

Uhm, dunno, just copied and pasted them.
Will look where they were from and post the link.
But I guess that someone found a hint on the Vedtorp/Almsten websites...

edit, while browing around and searching, I've found two things at the Simogowiki:



That link leads to this thread.

But there's more:



Looks like we are still in for a treat.

Hi, you seemed to be lost on the Internets.
This is TouchArcade, where 2$ for a game is too much, 5$ is an outrage, and 10$ or more is putting sugar in their car tanks whilst killing puppies.

Last edited by Vovin; 02-24-2013 at 01:22 AM.
02-24-2013, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Vovin View Post
Uhm, dunno, just copied and pasted them.
Will look where they were from and post the link.
But I guess that someone found a hint on the Vedtorp/Almsten websites...
Found it: http://www.giantbomb.com/profile/melonmasher/
02-24-2013, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by coderkid View Post

Yes, right. I write and ask that guy now what he means with his posts.
He's also a member here so I'll send him a PM.

Hi, you seemed to be lost on the Internets.
This is TouchArcade, where 2$ for a game is too much, 5$ is an outrage, and 10$ or more is putting sugar in their car tanks whilst killing puppies.

Last edited by Vovin; 02-24-2013 at 01:31 AM.
02-24-2013, 01:36 AM
#9
I think the reason people believe there is a third ending is the App makers have stated that MOST people won't work out all the clues and those that do will have a big surprise.
I didn't think it was a very hard game. I'm an average player at best, but I didn't need outside help.
So therefore I feel I belong to the group belonging to most people not working out all the clues.

That, or the programmers have under estimated their players.
02-24-2013, 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by cosmic68 View Post
I think the reason people believe there is a third ending is the App makers have stated that MOST people won't work out all the clues and those that do will have a big surprise.
I didn't think it was a very hard game. I'm an average player at best, but I didn't need outside help.
So therefore I feel I belong to the group belonging to most people not working out all the clues.

That, or the programmers have under estimated their players.

True, but the game is solveable by most players without the need of others.
At one point the devs stated that they want the players to talk about the game and solve the riddles. That's why I still believe that there is more.

Hi, you seemed to be lost on the Internets.
This is TouchArcade, where 2$ for a game is too much, 5$ is an outrage, and 10$ or more is putting sugar in their car tanks whilst killing puppies.