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Old 03-14-2013, 05:55 AM
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Default Why did criminals force Apple to set up a policy that's inconvenient to me?

When you want to update your screenshots, you have to submit a new binary and go under "new version review" process.

Is it stupid? I was suffered, especially they got my screenshots wrong and I have to do it again. (Make a new version, increase version number, submit and wait.)

How's the effect? When you update your screenshots, customer reviews for current version lost. And people tends to re-download the app and find nothing is changed. It's a waste of traffic and call for angry users. Even Apple want the changing of the pictures to be reviewed everytime, they can make another process, different only in that you don't need to upload a new binary and get the version number increased.
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:00 AM
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Please refer to my app, the first screenshot is same to the third. (I don't know how they achieved this. I double checked before submission. And what kind of "review" they are doing when even duplicated screenshots are not spotted?)
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:05 AM
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Think its good Apple are strict over this

The reason they changed this was people were uploading some terrible app, and then later changing the screenshots to look like some stunning FPS game (which wasnt checked by Apple), people would then buy it expecting these stunning screens and instead get the original terrible game.

It was all a scam so Apple have stopped that loophole.

Granted there may simply be mistakes with the wrong screenshot uploaded (surely double check !) but overall i think this is good for consumers, stops the scam apps and their screenshots
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Old 03-14-2013, 10:36 AM
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I'm really glad that Apple locked this down as well.
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Old 03-14-2013, 10:37 AM
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Again think of the many many people who lose money due to scam apps where they would simply get their rubbish game approved and then fraudently upload some stunning screenshots which were fake just to get sales.

Now Apple seem to be more strict over the way devs can change screenshots which is good. Surely the number of people who were fooled and lost money to fake apps is much higher than a few devs who didnt check what screenshot they uploaded.
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Old 03-14-2013, 11:07 AM
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Again think of the many many people who lose money due to scam apps where they would simply get their rubbish game approved and then fraudently upload some stunning screenshots which were fake just to get sales.

Now Apple seem to be more strict over the way devs can change screenshots which is good. Surely the number of people who were fooled and lost money to fake apps is much higher than a few devs who didnt check what screenshot they uploaded.
Agree 100%

Just check your screenshots, no biggie.
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Old 03-14-2013, 11:22 AM
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I certainly don't mind Apple reviewing screenshots. Assuming only spam or scams are going to get rejected who really cares. But I agree with the OP's sentiment--why does Apple require you to submit a new binary and increase the version number??? What a nightmare! Can't they just approve the screenshots separately and let you keep the same binary, version number, and current set of reviews.

The amount of hoops Apple required devs to jump through was annoying before--this just adds another truckload of straw to the camel's back. We all owe Apple a lot--we'd still be playing black and white Palm Pilot games if it wasn't for them--but come on guys! The iPhone is this beautiful, streamlined, futuristic product and yet the dev side of the app store (and kinda just the App Store in general) is a stuck in the stone age. Apple desperately needs to streamline the testing/submission/approval process for devs--its a nightmare and the whole screen shot approval garbage just makes it worse.
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Old 03-14-2013, 03:20 PM
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I certainly don't mind Apple reviewing screenshots. Assuming only spam or scams are going to get rejected who really cares. But I agree with the OP's sentiment--why does Apple require you to submit a new binary and increase the version number??? What a nightmare! Can't they just approve the screenshots separately and let you keep the same binary, version number, and current set of reviews.

The amount of hoops Apple required devs to jump through was annoying before--this just adds another truckload of straw to the camel's back. We all owe Apple a lot--we'd still be playing black and white Palm Pilot games if it wasn't for them--but come on guys! The iPhone is this beautiful, streamlined, futuristic product and yet the dev side of the app store (and kinda just the App Store in general) is a stuck in the stone age. Apple desperately needs to streamline the testing/submission/approval process for devs--its a nightmare and the whole screen shot approval garbage just makes it worse.
It's a ton better than on the console side, where you may literally be charged thousands of dollars to submit a critical bug fix (see Fez).

Why ask for another binary? Because (1) Apple doesn't want developers to be submitting a ton of screenshot updates, which could easily become a nightmare; and (2) they want to compare the binary to the screenshots every time.

Here at TA we stopped putting dated content on thread titles because it became burdensome to handle a constant stream of developer requests to make changes. Would it be better for developers to change thread titles any time they want? Sure, but it's thoroughly impractical. Agree or disagree, Apple almost always does things for a reason.
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:25 PM
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I absolutely agree with squarezero. Just look - you have noticed that uploading new screenshots isn't simple and quick. Right? It is also not quick for apple to review your updated screenshots. Even if Apple won't force you to upload the new binary. Reviewer doesn't remember your game. So he has to run it again to check with the new screenshots. This is additional load to Apple's review team. And Apple wants you to be resposible and be serious about screenshots. So to stop stream of unessesary screenshot updates - they make it not too simple for developers also - this makes us understand the importance of double-checking everything before submitting for review.

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Old 03-15-2013, 12:53 AM
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Think its good Apple are strict over this

The reason they changed this was people were uploading some terrible app, and then later changing the screenshots to look like some stunning FPS game (which wasnt checked by Apple), people would then buy it expecting these stunning screens and instead get the original terrible game.

It was all a scam so Apple have stopped that loophole.

Granted there may simply be mistakes with the wrong screenshot uploaded (surely double check !) but overall i think this is good for consumers, stops the scam apps and their screenshots
You didn't get my point. Both lock down and forced review are OK. But why uploading a new binary? So the version number is forced to increase and lure people to re-download to waste traffic?

By the way, I see the thread title is changed by someone. I previously refer this policy as "stupid", and I think it's pretty OK for who stupid enough to make the policy. Why the slightest offense to Apple is always put down in the forum? Multiple times. I seriously doubt Apple stuff gets control over the forum, or it's super Apple fans.
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