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Old 06-14-2013, 08:55 AM
Twixx Twixx is offline
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Default Looking for your thoughts as players on ads.

Hi Guys,

I've been a long time reader / consumer of this site but have never posted. I'm an iOS developer (generally doing contract work) and will be releasing my own game soonish. I want to hear your thoughts as players on how you feel about ads in games.

I know personally I find it really annoying when ads pop up in my face. And banner ads I really don't click on. But as a developer when things are flipped and I'm faced with figuring out a way to monetize my game, ads are an easy option to include.

My game is a simple 2D game inspired by an old game I had my my TI-83+ graphing calculator. I've been working on the game and design, and my wife, a self taught graphic artist, has been doing the graphics. I'm a huge fan of Nimblebit's games, especially their latest Nimble Quest. I really love how fun and well done Nimble Quest is, despite being such a simple concept. Thats my goal with this game, the concept is simple but I'm aiming for a well polished and executed final product (the gameplay is nothing like NimbleQuest, I just like their design philosophy).

I also really love how Nimblebit has handled their free to play games. They make their game playable and fun first and then work in app purchases into the game. Our game has been influenced heavily by this system. So in terms of monetization, the game will be free with in app purchases.

My goal now is to decide, is it worth putting ads in the game and giving the user the option to remove them? Feedback from other game developers I've found on various blogs online seems to indicate a remove ad IAP is not effective. But are the ads themselves effective at generating revenue through clicks? I don't know but I think it depends on multiple factors.

If you're an active gamer, you've probably seen the "Do you want a free game?" type pop up ads. While I find these personally annoying, statistically they are more effective than simple banner ads. Hit a big enough audience and you're going to get people clicking on them out of curiosity. So if a game handled them well (ie not constantly harassing you), would you care if you were asked from time to time?

Would you care if the game's main screen and maybe a couple other menu's had a banner ad at the bottom? Does it take away from the experience or do you just ignore it and not really care?

Have you seen a game that handled ads in a different way that you thought was better? Please share if you have!

Looking forward to hearing some feedback!

Jason
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Old 06-17-2013, 05:11 PM
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Wow tough crowd here! No one has an opinion on ads? I guess thats good for me as a developer Someone out there has to have an opinion!
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:30 PM
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You should post this on the public developer forums this way you'll get insight from devs experience too.
If the game is good I can live with ads, but ads during the main gameplay are unacceptable to me.
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:09 PM
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I personally think ads are fine, even pop ups if the game is free. As long as there is a way to pay to remove them.
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:48 PM
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I don't know if I'm representitive of the vast majority of iPhone owners, I pretty much instantly delete games with ads and have only ever accidentally clicked on one.
There are a few exceptions, Dead Ahead, Holy Archer, maybe a few more.
Those have a feature where purchasing any In app purchase removes ads.
If that's the case I believe it should be a non consumable purchase, one that can be restored if I delete and re-install.
I hope this is not true of your game, the vast majority of ad powered games are sub par and often very similar in gameplay to hundreds of other sub par offerings on the AppStore. All the vertical "racing" lane changing games come to mind.
If your game were to be original(ish) in design, fun to play, and in app purchases were designed to not be ridiculous, ie $20 for a reskin of a car/bike, I may consider it.
I do find ad financed games get much less of a chance from me.
Just my opinion and all. I guess that's what you were looking for though.
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Old 06-17-2013, 08:04 PM
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Ads are the quickest way to pull the players attention out of the game. Any prior attempt at immersion is lost.

Ads and gaming don't mix well
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:10 PM
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As an example, I can put up with a banner ad like Big Fish has on their adventure/hidden object games when first starting the game on the title screen. I believe this is the best choice because the ads are not appearing within or between a game being played or an annoying pop-up that needs to be closed continually. Both of those ad options would interfere with my enjoyment of the game and would rather delete a paid or free game than put up with the aggravation. So if there is to be ads than the title screen would be the best place, imo. (I would prefer not to have them at all)

To pay for a game and then pay extra to remove the ads is personally disliked but if its mentioned within the games description then at least I'm aware of it and more willing to purchase a game knowing this beforehand.
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:50 PM
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Agreed on the title screen placement, as long as it doesn't interfere with the functions of starting the game or such. Any game that intentionally places ads in a way that effectively forces you to click them to do something functional basically ensures I will never touch their work again, paid or not. But non-obstructing ads on a main menu are natural and not even a bad thing to me.
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:35 PM
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Agree with Colder, I think lardge ads within or between a game being played and the annoying ads that need to be closed constantly are really unnecessary.
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:06 AM
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If a games free i dont think i can moan about ad's appearing. I do like the games where for 69p you can then get rid of the ads, that type of IAP is fine by me as i'm getting the game for free anyway. I understand devs need to eat.

But if i buy a game i dont want to see ads on the menu/loading up the game or between levels etc. If that happens i'll probably delete the app, leave bad feedback and moan about the app on forums.

I dont care if the games 1 dollar or 2 or more, if i buy it i dont want to see ads
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