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Old 06-18-2013, 08:18 AM
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I don't know about you guys but I'm getting tired of buying 5-6-7-10 games and finding out within 2-3 mins they are crap or too complex.

In the last month alone I've wasted (yes, wasted) a lot on games I have now deleted like: KotoR, Eclipse, Le Havre, Sim City, Warhammer quest, King of Dragon Pass etc etc.

Its simply dead money now.

I'm not asking for refunds on all the games I delete, no that would be stupid.
But.. I would like a 'cooling off' time period, lets say five minutes.

If you buy an app or game and delete it within five minutes, you are not charged!

I don't think it will be abused, speaking for myself I think it would actually encourage me to buy more as I wouldn't have the 'hmm.. is it worth it?' Worry.

I don't think there's a chance in hell of it being added but I do think it would be a great idea.
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Old 06-18-2013, 08:39 AM
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Of course we all have different tastes but i cant believe you seem 'fed up' with KOTOR or Warhammer for example

The 'cooling off' period isnt bad for testing out 99c type games, throwaway type games but you cant just have 5 minutes to see if you like KOTOR or Warhammer (or Baldurs Gate) etc

Impossible to get a decent opinion in those 5 minutes for larger games, small runner style games/platformers etc its a good idea but not huge epic RPG's.

Why dont you simply wait ?

The forums great to see if a game goes down well with people or users you might have similar tastes to. I check a few iOS sites for reviews/youtube reviews etc. I'm not super rich so i wont instantly dive in to a $10 game without doing some 'homework'.

Plus theres many games which i think at first 'yuck, why did i buy this', come back to it a week later and realise what an amazing game it is and why everyones raving about it.

Not saying theyre super expensive but if you are thinking about a $10 game and 'is it worth it' then surely just wait for opinions/reviews/videos etc ? If you rush in instantly without checking then think you only have yourself to blame. If you've wasted in your view that money then again surely that tells you to wait to hear about future games.

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Old 06-18-2013, 08:55 AM
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I guess so, perhaps you're right about huge games but still, I do think it would be a good idea.

As for KotoR, I got totally stuck on Taris duelling, I simply could not get even 30% health off Marl, even when I was level 7.
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Old 06-18-2013, 09:34 AM
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Those are some well regarded classic games you regret buying, Mene. It might be you want to give them some more time to sink in. One thing that helps me decide on purchases it to look up gameplay videos. There are also a few websites or forum members that I know have similar taste in gaming that I do so give more weight to their recommendations.

I've been burned a few times spending more than I should on a game that ends up lukewarm. However, if I give it some thought often I get a reasonable value per dollar. For example, I deleted Warhammer Quest (like you I was disappointed) but not until I had spent 10+ hours on it (at 2 hours per dollar that's a good value in my opinion).

In part, having grown up trying to blow the dust out of NES cartridges to see if they will load better, I am a "physical media person". It takes some getting use to the App Store's disposable game marketplace. I'm use to spending $30+ on a game and being stuck with it, trying to milk all the enjoyment I can out of it, and it still feels odd downloading a game for under $5 playing around with it then deleting it to find another. Part of me wishes I had some oversized box with cool cover art to add to my perception the game should be some sort of permanent fixture in my collection.

A 5 minute free access period would be interesting but there are probably technology limits to that (I'm not sure if App Store could detect if you've deleted an App within 5 minutes; even if it could I don't want Apple to use that kind of access to my iDevice). Apple is watching us.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:08 AM
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Hi.

I don't know about you guys but I'm getting tired of buying 5-6-7-10 games and finding out within 2-3 mins they are crap or too complex.

In the last month alone I've wasted (yes, wasted) a lot on games I have now deleted like: KotoR, Eclipse, Le Havre, Sim City, Warhammer quest, King of Dragon Pass etc etc.

Its simply dead money now.

I'm not asking for refunds on all the games I delete, no that would be stupid.
But.. I would like a 'cooling off' time period, lets say five minutes.

If you buy an app or game and delete it within five minutes, you are not charged!

I don't think it will be abused, speaking for myself I think it would actually encourage me to buy more as I wouldn't have the 'hmm.. is it worth it?' Worry.

I don't think there's a chance in hell of it being added but I do think it would be a great idea.
Maybe you need to just find another gamer with similar tastes to yours and buy those games he enjoys. I noticed, you listed a few games as your sig, so start comparing sigs and see what thatbother guy likes...
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:41 AM
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KotoR, Eclipse, Le Havre, Sim City, Warhammer quest, King of Dragon Pass
Or maybe, you should just stick to a more casual experience. There's still tons of good stuff that are pretty casual. Seems to me the more indepth ones dont appeal to you.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:44 AM
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I guess so, perhaps you're right about huge games but still, I do think it would be a good idea.

As for KotoR, I got totally stuck on Taris duelling, I simply could not get even 30% health off Marl, even when I was level 7.
Ok... Sorry, but i just find that funny. I was playing on hard mode, and proper preparation and a bit of luck got me through.

Were you playing in hard mode?

Also, i hope you realize you can just skip some missions including the tournament and get on with the story. There's still tons of places to get stuff and money from.
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Old 06-18-2013, 11:00 AM
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You should probably just research the more expensive games before you buy. Changing the entire app store for YOU seems pretty silly.
Not to be rude, but really, have a little initiative and take responsibility for your own choices (thus, forcing you to make BETTER choices).
Also:
Buyer Beware.
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Old 06-18-2013, 11:01 AM
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Your problem is you don't know yourself well enough. How do you ever expect to buy a house?
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Old 06-18-2013, 11:12 AM
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Just the 2 cents from a dev standpoint -

Google play actually does this already, with I believe a 30 minute refund window. The problem it creates is actually one where people will download your paid game and then sideload the apk, then get the refund. The apk then gets placed on a number of Free APK sites, etc., and makes the rounds for piracy.

It's certainly a friendly method when it comes to consumer testing and experimentation, but it can be viewed by devs who still believe piracy is completely congruent to lost sales (read: most publishers) as the chance for lower sales, revenue, and profits.

With regards to the games you're talking about, I've found all of them to be high quality, deep gaming experiences. It sounds less like you're in need of a refund period and more that you just need to take a look at the games you've enjoyed playing in the past and purchase games with similar features and depth.

Everyone's got their preferences. I'd recommend taking a few minutes to list out all the games you've ever loved or had great experiences with, and then maybe posting that list here and seeing what the rest of the forums suggests.
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